The faithful commenters on the Post’s Opinions page never take a day off, so here we are on No Room at the Inn at Census Time Day, giving voice to our grievances or performing feats of strength. Or both at the same time, in the case of our commenters’ reactions to E.J. Dionne’s column bemoaning our congressional winter of discontent (it counts as a feat of strength because the comments are 3,000 strong. Ha. Ha, ha.) And oh, there IS room at the PostScript bunker for donkeys and pregnant women. We have a couple already.
Dionne’s grievance is with the no-compromise wing of the House of Representatives, which, if allowed to remain the most powerful faction in Congress, will truly screw up all that governing. Plus, Dionne argues, in the past, intransigence hasn’t been a political winner, like in 1990 when non-compromising Republicans ended up with a bill they liked even less than the one they’d first refused. A bipartisan majority will have to supersede the hard-right wing, Dionne suggests, or we’ll spend two more years doing nothing until another election.
What, seriously? That’s one possibility? We were putting everything off already until this election. You know the one? So we’re waiting for 2015 when we get a new-ish Congress or for three ghosts to visit moderate Republican House members in their sleep so they have changes of heart?
Lamentations says so. Nothing can change until the Republican Party does:
Spot on, E.J.; this is what I have been saying for some time. The current GOP representatives (or at least the Tea Partiers among them) do not believe in government. They should not be in Congress, because they are not willing to participate in the process. How they got into office in the first place is beyond me, but the Republican Party needs to mount campaigns to replace them with American patriots who believe in our Constitution.
Ashland proposes another possibility. Maybe even if they can’t get anything done, we’ll be okay:
If the economy is stronger than currently thought, and stabilizing and slightly rising home prices, a larger third quarter GDP than originally thought, falling unemployment rate, higher stock market, and the reduction in gasoline prices suggest it might be (as Michelle Obama indicated in the election), going over the cliff may not have the severe negative consequences to the economy as feared and would more quickly correct the current fiscal imbalance.
cdierd1944 says this bit of madness is necessary in order to persuade Americans at the next election to boot out the uncompromising:
I agree with your conclusion, but to get to that point Obama is going to have to be prepared to let the Republicans show their true colors. The American people need to hold the Republicans accountable for their behavior in 2014. Boehner fancies himself as a master negotiator who can get his way by creating a crisis. Obama needs to let him, and then point out that the Republicans manufactured the crisis to try to gain control over the situation.
elcigaro1 despairs of a world in which we need one-party-rule in order to function, and have to wait around for two years to maybe get it:
Yes EJ, if only we could get the other party to go away and have one party rule. Get rid of those undesirables. Next, put those that don’t agree with us into re education camps. Oooooh desn’t that sound great. Maybe institute a special salute we can all give each other in honor of our dear leader. Wait a minute, all this has already been tried. Why not try something new herr Dionne!
Moderate4USA has a compromise solution that wouldn’t require House Republicans to compromise!
How about a bill that would let the GOP cut the spending all it wants in their districts and states and the Dems raise taxers all they want in their districts and states. With things about 50/50 we could get pretty close to a balanced budget and both sides can see what would actually happen if they got their way. And the voters could vote on what would actually impact them rather than what they would want to do to everyone else.
ketal sees a problem with hoping/asking for compromise:
It’s not enough to tell them that they’re nuts. They don’t care.
Since we’re all doomed anyway, PostScript has collected some Christmas wishes to go out on.
Like all her best material, it comes from you guys. Merry merry, all.
“I wish to be left alone,” said the Republican. “Since you ask me what I wish, gentlemen, that is my answer. I don’t make merry myself at Christmas and I can’t afford to make idle people merry. I help to support the establishments I have mentioned: they cost enough: and those who are badly off must go there.”
“Many can’t go there; and many would rather die.”
“If they would rather die,” said Scrooge, “they had better do it, and decrease the surplus population.”
Since this is Christmas Eve, every Church in our region, or in the world for that matter will be holding services at different times throughout the day. So I urge all normal Americans (non-liberals of course because liberals are the anti-Christ) to look up the mass times at your local Churches. And to all normal Americans, I want to wish you a very Merry Christmas and let’s all pray for a miracle next year so we can get America back on track from the Stalinist dictator we have in the WH now that have caused 24 MILLION AMERICANS, like myself, to lose their jobs.
For Christmas I hope Santa gets you righties some long term memory and a free class at the local JC on math and economics.
And a bit of dialogue with which PostScript wishes you a very contentious Christmas:
The DNC has engaged in a war of blame and hate over the past four years. Leadership is something that they aspire to in their own … dreams.
The buffoonery of the right knows no limits.
Merry Christmas, troll.