Carolyn Hax: Circle of friends contains an awkward love triangle

Carolyn Hax
Columnist May 30, 2012

Adapted from a recent online discussion.

Hi, Carolyn:

Carolyn Hax started her advice column in 1997, after five years as a copy editor and news editor in Style and none as a therapist. The column includes cartoons by "relationship cartoonist" Nick Galifianakis -- Carolyn's ex-husband -- and appears in over 200 newspapers. View Archive

I have a good friend, “Judy,” who is in a shaky engagement where she’s trying to sort through a lot of issues with the guy, “Andy.” She is battling lingering feelings she has for her best guy friend, “James,” which become stronger when she is fighting with Andy (the guys are exact opposites).

To make it more complicated, James is interested in me, and I am interested in him. I would never make a move. However, James recently asked me on a date (I am newly single). I said no, being loyal to Judy. She got mad at him for asking me out and confessed her feelings. He does not feel the same way toward her, feels awkward and is distancing himself from her.

Her relationship with Andy has since gotten much stronger and seems to be on the permanent up and up.


Is there ever going to be an appropriate time where Judy and James have distanced themselves enough from each other, and Judy is satisfied enough with her relationship with Andy, that I can ask permission to give it a go with James? I would be content if she answered “No!,” but my friends say Judy has no right to block James from me since she is engaged, etc.

Off-Limits

Are you all fish in an aquarium, and you dictated the letter to your human keeper?

I’ll try answering bottom to top:

●Your friends are right, Judy has no right to insist you and James can’t date.

●You can, out of respect for Judy and her relationship, choose to hold off for a while as Judy recovers from her feelings for James (do let James in on this). Then, if you do start dating James, you can also respect the distance between him and Judy as necessary for Judy’s peace of mind, and not throw them together frequently in the same social situations.

Ideally Judy will fall decisively for her fiance — well, ideally, she would have before getting engaged to him, but I write for the reality I’ve got — but sometimes that just doesn’t happen; people are quite capable of dwelling on someone permanently and often find they can get on with their lives only if they stay away from that person for good.

●There is an appropriate time for you and James to try dating. Judy and Andy’s wedding makes a convenient milestone, but I’m not convinced that day should ever come, or will. If it doesn’t, then I’d say wait till Judy stops dwelling on James — or, alternately, when your interest in James outweighs your friendship with Judy. Whichever comes first.

●About the aquarium. If you do all inhabit a smallish world, then it might be that you and James are interested in each other because you’ve exhausted your interests in the other available people. Offices get like this, grad programs do, college buddies do, and television shows that have been on the air for more than a couple of seasons. . . . Anyway, all that means is that it’s a good idea to question your interest in James before you act on it, just in case. Probably a sensible path with anyone, but it’s especially important when a circle of friends gets a bit incestuous.

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