Animal Advocate Envisions a Vegetarian World

We're going to have a choice. As there are more and more and more of us, it takes an awful lot more land and resources to feed people with meat than it does [with] grain. The Earth could feed about 2.5 billion people if everyone ate the standard American diet, or it could feed 10 billion vegetarians. The fact that China is starting to eat our diet -- the more meat people eat, the more impossible it will be to eat at all.

The book makes the subtle point that the mistreatment of animals leads to all kinds of mainstream problems, such as pollution and cancer.

It almost makes you believe in karma. We're raping the Earth and the animals, and we're paying the price. I'm not a purist. The only answer is to leave all animals alone? No. Even though I am a capitalist, eventually we'll get to a place just as we did with human beings: that you don't deal monetarily in owning and selling them.

What's your least favorite animal?

Personally, I don't relate well to the carnivores. Not fond of our local hawks because they kill my squirrels. I would never want to see them killed, but my eyes don't light up at the sight of a hawk. The poor bastards: They have to live, they have to eat, but I don't have much affection for them.

So let's say I'm an omnivore who simply cannot go without eating meat or eggs now and then. Is there anything I can do to still be as animal-conscious as possible, even though I'm eating them?

Every single time you sit down at a restaurant, you make a choice. If there's a veggie burger on the menu, don't order the turkey burger. My vegetarianism didn't happen overnight. . . . I'm still a cheating vegan: If I'm dying for Doritos -- and I know they have a bit of whey in them -- I still eat them. But I think if I wasn't a cheating vegan, I might not even be engaging in this lifestyle at all. It's not an all-or-nothing thing.

But what if I want to order or buy meat?

Some things are better than others. . . . At least if you're buying meat that has met some sort of welfare standards, you're not contributing to heinous torture. And it's better to eat an occasional piece of steak than an omelet every day, both health-wise and also because of the amount of cruelty involved. Six eggs -- what those six hens went through!

Why do you think animal rights activists developed a reputation for being crazy people? Was it a matter of not communicating the message effectively, or other people just not understanding what the big deal was?

It's like the beginning of any movement. Activists throughout history are seen as crazy because they're trying to bring ideas outside of normal thought into the mainstream. There was a time when feminists were seen as a bit loony.

You adopted a turkey named Olivia on one of your visits to Poplar Spring Animal Sanctuary in Maryland. What made you fall in love with a turkey?

I was sitting on the grass, and this turkey -- whose beak and toe ends were sheared off when she lived on a turkey factory farm -- comes hobbling over to me. And I put up my hand to stroke her, and she crawls into my lap. I was just flabbergasted. She was so soft and so clearly loved being stroked and petted. She fell asleep in my lap. And I don't think people expect that of turkeys. That's why a visit to Poplar Spring makes you rethink things.

It's interesting when you meet chickens: They are sentient beings and not particularly stupid at all. And you suddenly don't want to be contributing to the battery cage industry. It's easy to do these days and makes such a difference. People just swap out the cow's milk in their lives for soy milk. Every single Starbucks has soy lattes, and they taste good. I'm not a martyr. I won't make myself miserable to do the right thing, but it's so easy to get a soy latte instead of skim. It's better for you, better for animals.

Meet the Author

Karen Dawn will host a reading, book signing and vegan-food reception Monday at 7 p.m. at Poplar Spring Animal Sanctuary (15200 Mount Nebo Rd., Poolesville, 301-428-8128, http://www.animalsanctuary.org). A tour of the sanctuary starts at 5 p.m. Free admission; proceeds from sales of the book go to Poplar Spring. RSVP is optional but appreciated at http://www.thankingthemonkey.com (click on "Readings").