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Wednesday, May 2, 2007; 12:00 PM
Reliable Source columnists Amy Argetsinger and Roxanne Roberts were online Wednesday, April 25, at Noon ET to discuss your favorite gossip, what you think about their recent columns or who you want to see them writing about in future ones.
A transcript follows.
In today's Reliable Source: Jack Valenti was sent off in high-style yesterday with one of the most A-listy funerals D.C.'s ever seen, and everyone agrees he would have loved it. Also, Zach Braff watches the Wizards' final playoff defeat, and Miss America promises to testify against pedophiles.
Recently: Christine Aguilera paints D.C. red; high school quarterback-turned-TV-star Christopher Meloni comes home to Alexandria; stuff goes missing from Art-O-Matic; and Andrew Sullivan and his fiance make plans for a Provincetown wedding. And how weird is it that just a day after lunching with Angelina Jolie (and getting his first ever shout-out in our column!), USAID director Randall Tobias resigns amid the D.C. Madam scandal? Feels like we jinxed him somehow. Finally, if you love dog stories -- and who doesn't? -- check out our expose on Gov. O'Malley's barky, rascally new pup Scout
A transcript follows.
A transcript follows.
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Amy Argetsinger: Good morning everyone. So many good questions we don't even know where to start!
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Falls Church, Va.: Law and Order SVU's Christopher Meloni was spotted at St. Anthony of Padua Catholic Church at the 8:30 mass on Sunday morning. He looks a lot younger in person than on TV.
Amy Argetsinger: Very good sighting. Hope you saw our item in yesterday's column about Meloni accepting the honors at his old alma mater (St. Stephens and St. Agnes School in Alexandria) as the 1978 undefeated football team for which he quarterbacked was inducted into the Hall of Fame. Word is that he also looked younger than any of his classmates, but that's star quality for you.
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washingtonpost.com: 'Law & Order's' Chris Meloni Goes Long, and Winds Up in 1978 ( Post, May 1)
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Shower in boxers or briefs?: Amy -- I caught you on AC 360 last night discussing the D.C. Madam and you were fabulous! And I caught the cross-country feed flirtation between you and Andy.
I think Mr. Cooper is more than super -- have you ever met him? Is he as cute in person as he is on TV? Is his hair as gray?
Amy Argetsinger: Cross-country flirtation -- really? Huh. Guess I'll have to review the tape. But thanks so much.
Only quasi-met him once, a year ago -- reported on his super-mobbed book signing in Arlington, 300 people, mostly lovestruck ladies as it happens, lining up to meet him. Fascinating. (link to follow)
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D.C. Madam: It appears that the D.C. madam and her girls were very busy over the years. Had either of you heard of the Pamela Martin agency before the story broke? Where did they advertize?
Roxanne Roberts: I never had---but then, I wasn't looking. Most escort agencies advertise in the yellow pages, the local tourist mags, and now---of course--the Internet.
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washingtonpost.com: A Movie Night Precedent?/Coopermania
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D.C. cap mgr: Hey Ladies, I JUST got back from the Birchmere to see the Knitters, the country cousin project of the great L.A. punk band X. I could SWEAR that Chris Meloni was in the backstage/VIP section as a friend of the band, with a very cute red head gal but semed more like a sister. Aqua T-shirt and handsome. YIKES, any dish?
Amy Argetsinger: Hey, it's possible he's still in town, after his St. Stephen's victory lap over the weekend, though can't verify the sighting. He seems like he might have cool music tastes. His wife came to town with him, but I think she's blonde. You can't tell from our small black and white photos but on Saturday he wore a great suit and a robins'-egg blue tie. Consensus was that he looked fantastic.
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Washington, D.C. 20016: Ladies,
What are your thoughts on the Wolfowitz World Bank situation? I'm sure that his girlfriend has been able to provide socks without holes(smile). Will he stay or will he go? Are folks unfairly holding his role in crafting the Iraqi war? And what about his attorney mentioning that there are numerous employment/ethics, etc., arrangements already in existence at World Bank?
Thanks fo the chat.
Roxanne Roberts: The buzz says his days are numbered, but the buzz also said the Attorney General would be gone by now---so take it all with a grain of salt:
Wolfowitz has never been popular at the bank, and the ethics questions are enough to tip the scales: Plenty of World Bank employees would like to see him gone---his role in the Iraq war aside. So I'm saying yes---he'll end up gone, especially since a respected member of the bank's ethic's panel asserted that Wolfie didn't fully disclose his role in the salary talks.
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D.C. Madam Scandal: You have said in this chat that the whole D.C. Madam list was just smoke and you doubted there were actually any big names on there. Care to change that prediction?
Roxanne Roberts: Nah. There are bound to be a few feds on a list that big, but I still don't expect any massive scandal or huge names. As Amy has pointed out, there's no abuse of power to date, no government credit cards in play----just guys paying for it on the sly, which is (yes we know) illegal but not all that newsworthy or exciting.
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Amy Argetsinger: Oh, whoops, accidentally put out Rox's response on the D.C. madam issue without attaching my own. For the record, here's what we said six weeks ago in this chat:
"Kensington, Md.: I'm guessing y'all are two of the saddest scribes at The Post, what with Deborah Jene Palfrey changing her mind about naming the names in her 46 pound black book of D.C. "Johns." Is there anything in local history that could have even come close if just a fraction of the 10,000 numbers revealed a bunch of bold-faced names?
"Roxanne Roberts: Well, there's always Fanny Foxe, the stripper who charmed Wilber Mills and jumped into the Tidal Basin when police stopped their car in 1974. No telling who else enjoyed her company. Of course, it doesn't take numbers to make headline---littl ol' Monica Lewinsky only had one name in her black book, but look what happened.
"And---sorry to burst your bubble---but the chances are slim to none that Palfrey's list has a lot of recognizable names: Probably lots of business types traveling through town, lots of otherwise nice guys with a taste of the forbidden, but I'd be surprised to find even a few household names.
"Amy Argetsinger: Seriously, everyone, we've allowed Deborah Jean Palfrey and her lawyer to play into our most cliched D.C. conspiracy fantasies. We hear "Washington madam" and immediately think "her clients are all congressmen and Cabinet secretaries!" But come on, you know it's all going to be a bunch of developers' sons and patent lawyers and CEOs of tech companies you've never heard of. Congressmen don't have to pay for sex!"
Okay, flashback over...
Look, no one would be more psyched for a great sex scandal than us (even though it's our colleagues on Metro who are doing all the fine reporting on this topic -- please check out Sue Ann Pressley's excellent A1 story from Sunday, link to follow) -- not that we want to see lives ruined, blah blah blah, but journalists do enjoy big news when it happens. We'd love to have our predictions proved wrong. But it hasn't really happened yet. Show of hands (except for you State Dep't types and NGO staffers) -- who here had heard the name "Randall Tobias" before Friday?
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washingtonpost.com: 'I Abhor Injustice,' Alleged Madam Says ( Post, April 29)
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New York, N.Y.: Do you get the sense that the vast, vast, vast majority of those thousands of names on the madam's list are boring no-name bureaucrats?
Roxanne Roberts: Yeah, because I think any explosive names would have leaked out. This woman is not the soul of discretion.
Amy Argetsinger: It's also a numbers game. Washington is a big city. The odds that a list of 1,000 men will include a recognizable name are pretty decent; but most of them will not be famous.
Famous guys are probably not much more likely than non-famous guys to fool around. But they're also more likely to be able to get it for free, don't you think?
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Brooklyn, N.Y.: This "scandal" is just going to get some men in trouble with their wives or girlfriends. We're not going to know who these people are.
I really don't care if, say, the deputy undersecretary for rural development at the U.S. Agriculture Department got a "massage" during a lunch break. Whoopdeedoo!
Amy Argetsinger: Thanks. What does anyone else think? (As if we really needed to solicit more questions on the madam, no pun intended...)
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Washington, D.C.: Like all right-thinking men I am appalled by the objectification of women and men who treat sex as a commodity. Shame, shame! That said, when they finish tracking down the numbers in Madam whatshername's black book, what's your guess on whether we will be talking more about hypocritical Republicans or sleazy Democrats?
Roxanne Roberts: Such stereotyping! Shocking, actually. What we have here are over-worked, stressed-out Washingtonians bound by the common need to relax next to a 20-something coed with advanced degree in bustiers. It's a bi-partisan issue.
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20035: Hi ladies! Really random question. Do either of you remember the young (like 20s) cute male Olympic swimmer from Md.? Maybe Ben something or other? I can't remember his name and I swear I saw him (or his twin). Help!
Amy Argetsinger: Michael Phelps, right? Who just broke another world record or two the other week. Was he cute in person?
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Anonymous: I don't know how impressed I myself would be with a Christopher Meloni sighting -- all I would be able to think about was the scene in "Oz" where he whizzed in a bucket.
Roxanne Roberts: You've got to be some kinda actor to do 10 takes of that scene. You can't fake whizzing.
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Bethesda, Md.: You know you're competing with David Lynch right now.
How does that make you feel? Empowered? Frightened?
Amy Argetsinger: Honored, actually. He's pretty cool. Saw him talk about transcendental meditation at the Hungarian embassy a few months ago, with music from my pal Donovan (link to follow) -- he's very engaging.
Not that you should go rush over to his chat or anything. Stay here.
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Pittsburgh, Pa.: So Britney returns to the stage but -- only for 15 minutes and she lipsynchs the songs, rather than perform them live. But, the club charges $125 (I hope that is wrong) a head for the privilege of listening to her PRETEND to sing in a too-small club. Jeez!
Amy Argetsinger: Was it really $125 a head? That's crazy.
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Washington, D.C.:"Congressmen don't have to pay for sex!"
Just because they don't HAVE to, doesn't mean they don't pay for sex. Movie stars don't HAVE to, but they still do. Ask Charlie Sheen or Hugh Grant.
It's possible some thought an escort would be more discreet than an affair that could go awry.
Roxanne Roberts: Ah, sex on the side is SO complicated. You risk a scandal if you pay for it, you risk a scandal when you don't. Really, don't you think they should just pick up a good book?
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washingtonpost.com: At the Hungarian Embassy, Dinner and a Moviemaker ( Post, Jan. 17)
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Washington, D.C.: Could have sworn I saw John Amaechi at Halo on Saturday night. Has he been in town?
P.S. -- Speaking of peope you expect to be taller or shorter, he was about as tall as I would expect ... immensely tall.
Amy Argetsinger: He was in town a few weeks ago, flacking a book or just working a cause, I can't remember -- he's the first or one of the first former NBA players to come out as gay. And he's 6-10, according to Wikipedia.
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It's that time of year ... : What area institute of higher education is having the best commencement speaker? That could help some of us celebrity watchers. UVA has John Grisham (hottie).
Amy Argetsinger: Well, Howard University has Oprah. That may win the prize this year.
As I think of other juicy local commencement speakers, I'll put them out, but right now I can't come up with a list of names...
If you're into the whole Patrick Fitzgerald thing, he'll be speaking at alma mater, Amherst.
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Anonymous: You guys rock ... I'll bet David Lynch wouldn't have the guts to field a question about Christopher Meloni whizzing in a bucket.
Okay, maybe bad example.
Amy Argetsinger: Oh, try him. We are talking about David Lynch here. He's been known to surprise.
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Washington, D.C.: Did you ever speak to Jack Valenti or hear him speak? Didn't he sound like Yosemite Sam?
Roxanne Roberts: I talked to Jack many times over the years---and no, he was too sophisticated to sound like Yosemite Sam. I think he really wanted to sound like Churchill, but the Texas accent got in the way.
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American Idol: Any comments on Simon kissing LaKisha? I was fairly surprised how well the Bon Jovi theme turned out.
Roxanne Roberts: I think it was more a lip slide, given the amount of lipgloss involved. But cute. Betcha that's the last Bon Jovi song Jordan ever sings.
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Washington, D.C.: As for celebrity sightings, I think I saw Amy Argetsinger running the Capital Challenge race this moring in Anacostia. Could that be true?
Amy Argetsinger: How'd she look?
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Washington, D.C.: Has "RizaWitz" caught on? And have these two ever been seen in public together?
Amy Argetsinger: You are helping us make sure RizaWitz catches on just by writing in like this. Try to use this in conversation with friends as well.
Paul took Shaha out to a concert at the Japanese embassy last month, which was one of the rare times they've ever hit the social scene together.
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Alexandria, Va.: Mia Farrow sighted at National Airport Sunday afternoon. It appeared that she was waiting for a flight out. Have you heard what she was doing in town? Thanks!
Amy Argetsinger: Not sure what this visit was about, but she's been here a lot doing Darfur activism. It's a big cause for her.
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Washington, D.C.:"No, he was too sophisticated to sound like Yosemite"
I wasn't implying he used lingo like "varmit" when talking. Just his accent.
Roxanne Roberts: I like "varmit"---another word that should be used more often. But no, his accent wasn't THAT broad.
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Going to the dogs: Your piece on Maryland's "First Dog" got me thinking -- what celeb has the worst-behaved dog and what does that say about them?
Amy Argetsinger: Everyone please check out our Sunday story about Scout O'Malley. Whatta dog!
Can't think of any badly behaved VIP pooches off the top of my head. Anyone here had any bad experience with an A-list pet? You should really write in to us about that, because we can't get enough of that stuff. We vow not to write anymore about ducklings getting killed, but we love dog stories. Everyone loves dog stories. reliablesource@washpost.com
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Capital Challenge: Argetsinger -- shorter than you'd think.
Amy Argetsinger: Yeah, I've heard that too.
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Winchester, Va.: Ladies, why don't you come to the Apple Blossom Festival this weekend? We just have a few celebrities this year -- Wayne Newton, Janie Fricke (Country music star), Terry Labonte, and local-athletes-made-good Kelley Washington of the NE Patriots and Devin Mactavish of DC United (a real cutie). Always loads of fun! I can even get you a spot to watch the parade!
Amy Argetsinger: Wayne Newton -- really?
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Anniversa, RY: Did you ladies do anything to celebrate the fourth anniversary of "Mission Accomplished" Day yesterday? Apparently, legislation suitable for veto is the appropriate gift for this special anniversary. It's too bad those 2003 political organizers didn't borrow a movie poster from "Mission Impossible" to hang on that battleship instead.
Roxanne Roberts: I put on a jumpsuit, but it felt wrong.
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Anonymous: Interesting that no one in the media seems to think that the Madam's list is news ... every cable show last night seemed to be having sermons on protecting the privacy of the guys on that list. Am I missing something here, even if a public figure is on the list we'll never hear about it?
Roxanne Roberts: We'll hear. Word is that ABC has the list and is preparing a report to run sometime this month. I'd guess reporters are contacting men on the list as we type.
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Hickory Hill: I have heard it's for sale but I have not heard what Ethel Kennedy's plan is. Where will she go next? Sad to see it sold, but I remember when it was deep in horse country. Now it is barely the burbs.
Roxanne Roberts: Ethel is spending most of her time at the Kennedy compound in Massachusetts. I'm guessing a developer will scoop up the property and put up three McMansions--unless it's been designated a historic property. Does McLean have those?
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A.I. Fan: So ladies -- tonite 2 of the crew take a leave of absence. I thought last night they ALL did great but the scores are added to last week's, which was not so great. Anyway, I think Blake was rapping hot and the girls rocked it ... so I guess Chris and Phil may be on the bottom of my list today. Your thoughts?
Amy Argetsinger: Hmmm -- pick two from this column: LaKisha, Phil, Chris. Every time they come up to sing I think, "oh, I forgot they were still here." Some think that Jordan is in trouble, but I think she's probably safe. She's got the youth vote to herself now that Sanjaya's gone. If you're a 12-year-old member of the voting public, you probably think that Phil and Melinda are Mom and Dad's age.
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NoVa: This is pretty random and probably way off-topic, but I was happy to see someone refer to National Airport, not Reagan National.
It still bothers me that they changed the name. How could they do that. They changed it from Washington National to Reagan National.
So was Reagan a better president than Washington?
Roxanne Roberts: Better hair. but in my heart, it will always be National.
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Lancaster, Pa. : As there seems to be a mention of fashion in the first couple of comments, I'll add my two cents. You guys need to take Dana Milbank in tow. Last week I saw him on Countdown and at first I thought Tiger Woods must be having a garage sale and Dana picked up one of his older Masters jackets (those hideous green things). Then I noticed the Christmas-red tie and figured he must be auditioning for Elf II.
Amy Argetsinger: Dana is one of the great multi-talented entertainers of our time -- and a role model for young America. It may look strange to you now, but I predict that within weeks you'll be wanting to buy a Masters-green jacket for yourself.
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Washington, D.C.: I saw Wolfowitz and his girlfriend at Nat'l Airport a month ago, giggling like schoolgirls, as far I'm concerned, she earns her money, one way or the other.
Amy Argetsinger: Hmpf. Thanks for not calling.
reliablesource@washpost.com
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Anonymous: I heard the D.C. Madam's escort service advertised in The Diamondback, the University of Maryland's student newspaper. They had an article about it a few months ago.
Roxanne Roberts: That's where they advertised for the co-eds.
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Get It For Free: I don't know, "big names" might prefer to go to someone who's equally bound to confidentiality by the threat of jail time if they blab rather than, say, a Hill staffer with a blog.
Roxanne Roberts: That's the problem: lack of professionalism. In the old days, madams and their girls could be trusted not to talk. Shoddy business practice, if you ask me.
Amy Argetsinger: As Pat Collins of Channel 4 asked me the other day, "Is she giving the madams of the world a bad name?" Which was the most brilliantly hilarious commentary on this thing I've heard this far. Still, I don't know -- I mean, you go to an escort service, I don't care if they've got a big "confidentialty guaranteed!" banner in the yellow pages -- caveat emptor, dude.
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Another graduation question: Any celebrities have kids graduating from local schools? Georgetown is always good for a foreign royal or when all else fails a Trump.
Roxanne Roberts: Good question----it's getting to be grad season, isn't it? Don't know any big names off the top of my head, but we'll dig around and report back. Chatters, know any golden children getting a diploma?
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Wayne Newton: Did you know he's from Roanoke, Va.? Hard to believe ... Isn't that where Tiki and Ronde Barbour are from?
Amy Argetsinger: Get out -- I did not know that.
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Lottery Winner: I see that the powerball ... I think is up to 15 million. If I win, I'll buy Hickory Hill and through a lavish party that will be news of the Reliable Source!
Roxanne Roberts: Awesome---but don't forget to set aside money for the taxes.
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Hook: Just saw the article in the Food section and that picture of chef Barton Seaver. Do you know anything about him -- single, etc.? He's quite the looker!
Amy Argetsinger: He is smokin' hot, that's about all I know. And a very good chef -- I'm a fan of the food at St. Ex. and Pilar, where he used to work.
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San Diego, Calif.: I think the club charged $35, but capitalism kicked in, and people sold their tickets for outrageous prices on craigslist and eBay.
Roxanne Roberts: That sounds about right, assuming word leaked out that she was showing up. But still: lip-syncing?
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The Unit: I know you're not Pookie, but was that Bai Ling on 'The Unit' last night?
Amy Argetsinger: It's not popping up on IMDB, but doesn't mean it wasn't. Anyone else know?
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Nat'l Airport: Natl Airport's full name is "Ronald Reagan Washington National Airport."
Amy Argetsinger: Yes.
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Capitol Hill, Washington, D.C.: How is it that nobody has mentioned the biggest and saddest celebrity news of the week -- the passing of Tom Poston? He was hilarious in his guest appearances on "The Bob Newhart Show," as well as when he was a regular on "Newhart." Nothing good left on TV these days and we can only hope TV Land will honor him with a marathon night (or two) of his great performances.
Amy Argetsinger: Thanks for mentioning this. We'll provide a link to Adam Bernstein's very thoughtful and thorough obituary.
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washingtonpost.com: Tom Poston; Played the Comically Clueless (Post, May 2)
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Another Church sighting: Chris Matthews at Blessed Sacrament in D.C. -- likes to take a seat in the back at the 5:30 Sunday Mass. I've seen Ted Kennedy and a CNN guy there too.
Amy Argetsinger:"a CNN guy" -- yeah, they kind of all look alike, don't they?
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Washington, D.C.: You guys ever ask Tucker Carlson why he stopped wearing his bow tie?
Amy Argetsinger: He announced last year on MSNBC: "I just decided I wanted to give my neck a break." We should all consider changing up our look now and then.
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Meloni at Birchmere: I was there last night -- it wasn't him, it's a local actor that looks a lot like him who is friends with the band from L.A.
Roxanne Roberts: Thanks for clearing things up. What's the local actor's name? Is he hot? Can he whiz on cue?
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MCI Center: Were there any LeBron James sightings while the Cleveland Cavaliers were in town? Anywhere we know of where he hung out? Incidently, Cavs' backup center Scot Pollard at the Palm Friday was about as tall as you'd expect.
Amy Argetsinger: No one called in any LeBron sightings, alas. RE: the Scot Pollard sighting -- thanks for not calling. Or was he just not very interesting? reliablesource@washpost.com
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Bai Ling on "The Unit": Ugh, yes indeed it was.
Amy Argetsinger: Not a fan?
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Britney: Britney's "performance" at the club -- was that the beginning of her comeback or the continuation of her bottoming out?
Roxanne Roberts: I'm thinking this is part of her "Youthful Indiscretions" tour. Seriously---that would be an awesome name for her next CD.
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It's been real: Gotta run now and ask Kathie Lee Gifford in her chat is she is going to get the job on the view. Talk to you next week.
washingtonpost.com: Live Discussion: Kathie Lee Gifford (washingtonpost.com, 1 p.m.)
Amy Argetsinger: Oh, that would be intriguing if she joined The View. BTW, I met her last week at the debut of her new musical -- she looks fantastic, and could not have been nicer.
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Washington:"I just decided I wanted to give my neck a break." Oh there are times I've wanted to give his neck a break! woka woka
Amy Argetsinger: Ba-da-bump.
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Milbank: Last Week's Chat: "Dana is one of the most versatile, multi-talented entertainers of our time."
Today's Chat: "Dana is one of the great multi-talented entertainers of our time -- and a role model for young America."
You guys owe Dana money, or does he write his own descriptions?
Amy Argetsinger: I think Dana owes me money now, don't you?
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Washington: Sorry, Amy, had to catch a flight -- tried to give Wolfowitz my seat in Delta lounge, turned it down then jumped when I left.
Amy Argetsinger: All right, then.
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Re: D.C. Madam: I wonder how many wives who see their husband's name in the book will actually be surprised. My guess is, probably not many.
Amy Argetsinger: I wonder.
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Re: National Airport: And if you use it to fly a lot, then it's known as DCA (wink wink).
Roxanne Roberts: True---although I gotta say RRA has a nice ring to it (wink wink.)
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New York, N.Y.: I recommend Firefox browser, or Safari. It allows multiple tabbing, which means you anyone can easily follow multiple chats.
No need to choose between you and Lynch.
Amy Argetsinger: Okay, then. For those of you with chat addictions -- good news.
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QE2: Any public Washington events in store for her? Or is it just Jamestown, Richmond and private White House dinner?
I think it is very cool she's going to the Kentucky Derby. Think she'll make it to the mosh pit that is the infield?
Amy Argetsinger: Nothing super-public -- a hospital visit, etc. I hope she makes it to the infield. That would rock.
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Los Angeles: When is that handsome devil Anderson Cooper going to settle down and get married?
Amy Argetsinger: Indeed! Cannot wait to report that news.
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Baltimore: Re: Wayne Newton: His Vegas spread is called Casa de Shenandoah. It is across the street from a Shell station.
Amy Argetsinger: Thanks -- that's awesome.
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New York: How about a totally radical move and putting a dude on "The View." I'm thinking Kat Williams. Or how about Bernie Mac, smoking a stogie and looking disgusted at the ladies all morning?
Amy Argetsinger: I have no idea who Kat Williams is, but Bernie Mac is a brilliant, brilliant idea.
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Birchmere: Aidan Hughes. Google him.
Roxanne Roberts: AKA: The Meloni look-a-like.
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FAA: RRA is already the airport code for Ronda, Spain.
Roxanne Roberts: Darn.
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Roxanne Roberts: Jeesh -- no one asked us who should play the D.C. madam in the quickie made-for-tv movie. You guys going soft on us? Well, we love ya anyway. Call us with queenly sightings or confirmed names on the list at reliablesource@washpost.com.
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I found the link: To the Hickory Hill real estate agent.
Amy Argetsinger: One last thing...
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Amy Argetsinger: Now we're really gone. Thanks again...
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