Jen Chaney and Liz Kelly
Friday, March 21, 2008 2:00 PM
Has "Lost" got you a mite confused and ready to hurl at the next mention of smoke monsters? Or do you have the fate of the Oceanic 6 and the Jack-Kate-Sawyer-Juliet love square all figured out? Who got Scooby Doo'd this week? Are you a new viewer, adrift on an unfamiliar isle or an old hand ready to bare knuckle some quantum physics? In either case, we're here for you and armed with more mediocre puns and pop culture references than a hunky con man than you can shake a stick at and ready to explain exactly what it is that Cheech Marin and Bai Ling have to do with any of the above.
Post.com "Lost" bloggers Liz Kelly and Jen Chaney will attempt to get to the bottom of these matters every Friday. Liz and Jen, both obsessive "Lost" fans, have been writing their weekly dueling analysis of the show since 2006.
A transcript follows.
When not debating the merits of Sawyer's hotness, Liz Kelly writes the Celebritology blog and Jen Chaney acts as movies editrix and DVD columnist for washingtonpost.com.
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Liz Kelly: Welcome back to our little discussion of the most inscrutable show on TV. We're glad to have you here with us, the good guys.
Jen Chaney: And we really mean it. We are the good guys. But if you give us $3.2 million, we can totally turn into bad guys if you'd prefer.
So we're ready to talk about last night's episode (which Liz and I both were eh about), the season so far and, of course, Lost Madness. The championship game is on. As predicted, it's a bout between Sayid and Desmond. Oh, this is going to be exciting, kids!
Silver Spring, Md.: What do you think...was Alex sporting a baby bump???
Liz Kelly: I sincerely hope you're kidding. If not, I'm going to hunt you down and force you to watch "My Fair Brady" over and over and over again.
New York: Miles correctly noted to Locke that Ben "wants to survive. And considering a week ago you had a gun to his head and now he's eating pound cake, I'd say he's a guy who gets what he wants." (Thanks, Miles, for saying to John what I scream at him from my couch every week!)
Is there any chance Locke actually has a plan or some perspective of which we aren't aware, or is he really as susceptible to Ben's manipulation as we all think he is?
Liz Kelly: My guess is that he's completely at sea (my second bad pun of the day). He realizes something is going on, but he's forever playing catch up. Which, in a way, parallels his pre-island life. He was forever playing catch up with his past and his father, who was able to manipulate him just as easily as Ben.
Jen Chaney: I'd like to think Locke had a plan, but I don't. I think he honestly feels that he can commune with the island, that this place has transformed him into the most self-actualized version of himself. And that's a dangerous mental place to be. Especially when you have access to grenades.
Cleveland, Ohio: Doc Jensens' substitute writer touched on an interesting point: we've seen Charlie post-death and now Libby. Is there something about dying on (or in Charlie's case, close-to) the island that puts you in some sort of limbo where you can haunt or visit the living?
Jen Chaney: This ties into the time travel loop theory that Liz and I pushed out there in the blog. I am starting to treat it like a Bible because a. it's very thorough and b. it makes my brain hurt. Therefore I assume it has to be correct on some level.
To bare it down to the most basic essentials, it suggests that some people on the island are sent back in time and must eventually catch up to their real time consciousnesses. So if Libby and Charlie were still in the past when they died, their souls are not in synch. Hence, the ghosts. It helps a lot to think about this in terms of TiVo.
It's also possible the whole thing is a load of bunk. But I dug it when I read it.
Liz Kelly: I'm with Jen. I think the author of that theory, one Jason Hunter, is onto something. I'm imagining him at this moment being escorted to a soundproof cell by nervous ABC execs seeing the "Lost" franchise prematurely explained.
Washington, D.C.: You guys are more on top of all of LindeCuse's interviews and explanations...so if the writer strike hadn't ended, last night would have been the season finale? Did they tweak after they knew there would be more episodes, or was this the finale they had originally planned, and is now just number 8 out of 13 episodes this season? Because I would have been pretty bummed if that was it for 9 months.
Jen Chaney: This was originally supposed to be episode 8 out of 16. The number was cut down to 13 because of the strike. So it wasn't originally intended as a closer.
I honestly feel like the rushed their way through the writing process because they could feel the strike hit. I mean, compare last night's ep with "Ji Yeon" or "The Constant," which were impeccably scripted, I thought. It wasn't even close. But I understand how that goes. Deadlines can be murder, especially when a strike is looming.
Liz Kelly: Mental note: Never be on a deadline with Jen.
Jen Chaney: Hey!
Washington, D.C.: I agree with your analysis that Ben set up Rousseau and Karl. It parallels nicely with Juliet's recent back story, that is, Ben indirectly killing Goodwin. Alex is "his" and he's removing the people who stand in the way of him completely having what he views as his.
So, while that scene seemed so random and tacked on last night, I envision a much larger explanation. Probably one that will make Ben look like a selfish and immature.
Liz Kelly: Well, and as Jen pointed out in this morning's analysis, we don't know that Rousseau is dead. We know she was shot, but we didn't get a flatline or an official death pronouncement. If McPatchy can come back from being massively electrocuted by the fence, surely Danielle can take a little crossbow attack in stride, right?
Another thing I want to mention that was brought up in the analysis commments thread. I can't find the exact comment right now or I'd paste it here, but it questioned the fact that Rousseau is really Alex's mom. Ben said something to the effect of "Your mom will take care of you." Well, maybe he didn't mean Danielle.
Jen Chaney: Interesting theory, but I do think Rousseau is her mom. Maybe I'm naive, but I do.
And Rousseau could easily bounce back from that bow-and-arrow thing. I get my chest punctured all the time and just walk away. It's easy.
And you're right -- nice parallel. IF, in fact, Ben really did set them up. That's a solid guess but what if the shooter turns out to be someone else? Like ... Richard Alpert? Jack? Or ... Rose?!? Just throwing it all out there, thinking outside the Faraday cage and what not.
Dallas: I think Sayid is truly loosing his mind and/or more deceiving than Ben. Why else would he rat out Michael to the captain?
Liz Kelly: Is "loosing" one's mind better or worse than "losing" it?
I don't think that his giving Michael up to the captain was at all out of character or deceptive. Like most of the other Losties, Michael's name is dirt to him. He (Michael) killed two of them and Sayid is not one to take the death of friends -- especially women -- lightly.
At this point, Sayid also believes Ben is up to no good and finding out that Michael is working for Ben only adds to his dislike.
From where Sayid's sitting, Michael is not to be trusted. The captain may be an unknown quantity, but (to Sayid) Michael is known and he's known as a double-dealing murderer.
Jen Chaney: Do you hear the indignancy in Liz's (writing) voice? You are insulting her Sayid, and she will have none of it!
I actually think Sayid is pretty cool and collected, all things considered. I am curious to see what finally pushes him over the edge and onto Ben's team.
Broken Fren, CH: Je voudrais observer un moment de silence pour Rousseau. I'm gonna miss that crazy lady, and her split ends. I mean, the irony: of all the crazy, gun-toting French women I've known, she is the only one I've never wished dead. And now she's gone.
Jen Chaney: She may not be gone yet, my dear. We shall see.
Cleveland: After last night's episode, I am convinced that it's Michael in the coffin. We already know who the other Oceanic Six are and it's pretty unlikely that it'll be one of them. I think the "not yet" flag was a clue about Michael.
Oh, and RIP Karl, but I don't think Rousseau is really dead.
Liz Kelly: Not to mention the obit Jack had that seemed to list the deceased as living in New York (and we saw Michael in New York last night) and being survived by a son.
Jen Chaney: Yeah, I had that thought, too.
Although before last night's episode, I also thought that maybe the coffin is empty. The funeral home would have to be pretty out to lunch for that to be the case, but it crossed my mind.
Greenbelt, MD: A continuity issue that's troubled me since season 2 ...
Kelvin and Reshenko; then Desmond and Kelvin; then Desmond all by his lonesome ... would get periodic air-drops of supplies -- Dharmacereal, Dharmacookies, Dharmawashingpowder for their jumpsuits, etc.
Question one. Who made the drops? Do Ben and Co. have a plane (it was an airdrop, wasn't it?).
Question two. Why do they drop enough supplies to (apparently) feed several dozen people, if only 2 people are supposed to man the station? The beach losties seem to still be living large off the last drop, and there are a lot of them. I don't know about you, but a box of Dharma flakes would probably last all of 3 days in my house, and there's only 5 of us.
Just earlier this season, we've seen that the folks on the beach still have a pretty well stocked pantry, and it's been how long since the Swan was blown up?
Jen Chaney: Very good question. I can't speak to the drop issue, but I assume that they had been coming for a long time, perhaps even since before the Purge?
I thought they might be a holdover from the '70s and since no one told the powers that be that good 'ol Ben committed genocide, they just kept bringing tons of supplies.
Now who is making the drops and why they wouldn't know what's up? I have no idea.
Baltimore: I think someone must be gaming your bracket! I can't believe Desmond is leading Sayid! Is somebody out there repeatedly voting for Desmond?
Jen Chaney: You can vote repeatedly, but it only counts your vote once. I guess you could log on to multiple computers as part of a Desmond crusade, but then you're lamer than I am. And I have Boone as my screensaver.
There is much, much love for Desmond out there. I won't say who this was, but a male coworker admitted that he cried at the end of "The Constant" because he loves Desmond so much.
Liz Kelly: I know who you're talking about and I promise not to use that knowledge for ill gain. Though I will add that my favorite beer is to be had at a pub not even a block from work.
If you're a Sayid girl (or boy) like me, rally the troops -- send the bracket out to other like-minded Sayid-lovers. That he even made it this far, though, should be proof positive to producers that we could all stand a little more Sayid in the show.
No Knives John: You know your Lost compulsion has run amok when you observe that Kevin Johnson anagrams to "No Knives John" and suspect it could be a coded warning the consequences of Locke killing Naiomi.
Jen Chaney: The screensaver on my computer is Boone.
I am in no position to help anyone.
Liz Kelly: A Boone screensaver? Such a geek, you are.
Continuity: Do you believe that Michael's entire flashback was linear? Or did his attempted suicide actually happen after his conversation with his mother about Walt?
Jen Chaney: I definitely took it as linear. He was in the hospital after the accident during the holiday season (we could see a Christmas tree). And when he visited his mother, her house was decorated for Christmas. Could have been a difference of days but that's so minor that I doubt they would switch the timeline to that level. I am not sure what it would signify.
That shot of Walt in the window seeing his dad was the one moment that made me feel any emotion. Also, Walt looked like Taller Ghost Walt. So much older for someone who was only away for two months.
Liz Kelly: Right. I think they had Walt crouch or stand on his knees to avoid giving the full "taller ghost Walt" impression, but his features are maturing, too, and it's hard to hide that.
Here's a thought: If we think again about the time loop theory and the idea that people who are seen as "ghosts" on the island are people who have been killed when traveling back in time, should we assume that Walt was killed at some point after we saw him looking out of that window? (That still would've been enough time for him to turn up as "taller ghost Walt" and urge Locke out of the mass grave.)
Or, do we assume -- as we have in the past -- that Walt is possessed of some special powers that allow him to be everywhere at once?
WAALLLLLLLLLLLTTTTTTTTTT: Posting early since I'm not actually at work today due to G.Friday.
That was a nice capper to 8 great episodes. For a moment I thought that Michael was going to be the actual 6th person instead of Aaron, but i guess not. That being said, I liked how tight the flashbacks were--though i'm not sure that Widmore is now the criminal mastermind behind the whole thing.
He might have sent the Freighter, but its not much of a secret to the Crew and they're telling everyone which leads me to believe that Widmore doesn't care if people know he's looking for the mission. He's not covering his tracks all that much.
I'm sad about the deaths as well--but Karl and Danielle? Ugh, no fair. She was such a cool character(albeit maybe have run out her usefulness.)
Also--the Libby sightings? So like the Charlie visitation to Hurley, she totally creeped me out.
Jen Chaney: As Liz and I said in the blog post this morning, we are not sure about Widmore either. He is not covering his tracks and I can't believe he wouldn't.
Liz suggests that maybe Ben masterminded the faux wreckage and I am liking that theory, even though it greatly conflicts with my "Ben Is Twisted But Motivated By Good" Theory.
Valdosta, GA: Can you help? I was confused when Michael's mother said he was gone for 2 months -- is that the right time frame for being on the island?
Or is this another time issue?
Liz Kelly: That sounds about right. Remember, Walt and Michael left the island at the end of the second season and the rest of the Losties have now been there for about 100 days.
Jen Chaney: Agreed. That sounded accurate, more or less.
New York, N.Y.: Did anyone notice that Michael may not have been in present day (or 2004) NYC? Note the car he drove into the shipping crate. Also, when he first awoke in the hospital, the equipment was not the type currently used. Finally, Mr. Friendly was staying at the Hotel Earle, now the Washington Square Hotel. Could this be sometime in the early '60s?
Liz Kelly: Well that's an interesting theory. I did a quick search, but wasn't able to determine when the name changed. I think, though, we have to assume michael was in 2004. After all, when he arrived to report for freighter duty he was carrying a cell phone.
Jen Chaney: Yeah, I don't think it was the '60s. I mentioned the Hotel Earle in the blog today, but I thought it was just an homage to Dylan and room 305. But maybe there is more to it, you never know.
I also don't think it was the '60s because Michael saw the same news reports on Oceanic 815 that the freighter team saw in '04.
Vienna, Va.: Was that really Malcolm David Kelley playing Walt last night? It didn't look like him.
Liz Kelly: Well, he's not credited, so probably not.
Jen Chaney: Ooh, good catch. I'll have to look at that again.
So maybe he wasn't that much bigger. I thought he looked older than he would have after two months.
Northern Virginia: I just found out yesterday that my (non-Lost Fan) wife's C-section is scheduled for April 24, the day of the next episode. Any ideas on how to broach the idea of upgrading our cable service to include a DVR without giving my motives away? Or should I just give up now and plan to catch the episode later on abc.com?
Jen Chaney: Northern Virginia:
Never. Say. Die. Get a DVR. It's a nice thing to have in general, especially when you have a little one.
And for the record, I delivered my son on Feb. 7, 2007, the day part two of season three began. And I watched the episode in the hospital that night. You can make things happen.
Liz Kelly: See, Jen is hardcore.
Vienna, Va.: Am I wrong for thinking the actress playing Alex is hot but close to ugly?
Liz Kelly: Ah, a tie in to yesterday's Celebritology Live chat. Inspired by Sarah Jessica Parker, one chatter coined the "hot, but almost ugly" term. Not saying I agree -- just explaining the provenance. And I think Alex is lovely, fwiw.
Anonymous: So I understand the TIVO theory, but I don't understand how it's possible to travel between your past self and your future/present self (which results in a nose bleed). Clearly Mr. Friendly can do it on command. Explain please!
Liz Kelly: The idea, I believe, is that the travel takes place purely in the mind. Which, mind you, doesn't make it any less real.
Jen Chaney: Right. In my head right now, for example, it's 1982.
Liz, I love your friendship pins and puffy stickers. They're totally tubular!
Liz Kelly: Gag me with a spoon, Jen.
U Street: I know why Desmond is beating Sayid. It all comes down to Shannon. Their whole relationship was ridic. Sure he can breakdance kill people, but in the end he goes for the dumb blonde. All hail Des and Penny!!
Jen Chaney: And here is one of the members of the Des team.
They exist. In droves.
Elsie, DC: We learned in The Lost Experience that Alvar Hanso promised to continue supplying The Dharma Initiative in perpetuity.
Jen Chaney: So he's behind the drops, then?
I never delved into the alternate reality games, so I only recall a few of the pertinent details. Thanks for the reminder.
Brooklyn, N.Y.: In your blog, you guys touched on how the purchase order said Widmore Industries: "Yes, I thought it was weird that Widmore put his company's name all over the docs, too."
One more thing is that Tom told Michael that Widmore bought the plane through a shell company, in which case it would have had some fake company's name on it, not "Widmore Industries." I'm thinking that is a fake by Ben and Tom.
Liz Kelly: Right -- good point. Mr. Friendly did say something about a shell corporation.
Speaking of Mr. Friendly -- I loved his scenes last night. He's there on serious work -- to convince Michael to get on Widmore's freighter -- yet he's acting like a randy conventioneer living high on the expense allowance hog. Which is exactly right. Of course he'd want to stay in a posh hotel suite, order room service and make some new friends while staying in the big city. It was just great to see that the writers knew that this guy would be a little culture shocked.
Smithfield, R.I.: Was it just me or was the captain not at all surprised to hear what Sayid was saying about Michael? He was just sitting there smirking the whole time!
Liz Kelly: Right. The assumption is that when the show returns on April 24, Captain Gualt will say something to the effect of "Of course we knew that and before Michael smashed the communications terminal we used Ben's incoming signal to triangulate his exact position, making it possible for us to send the helicopter on a specific course."
Bethesda, Md.: Plus, Sayid always has another angle, like when he used Kate as a bargaining chip a few weeks back. In addition to the other reasons already mentioned, I think he also offered up Michael as a way to win the trust of the captain, which he thinks could be to his and Desmond's (and the other Losties') benefit.
And wanna bet his next move is to scour Michael's room for the bomb?
Liz Kelly: Good point. Sayid -- unlike oh, say, Jack -- is always thinking about the long game.
Jen Chaney: Good call.
But really, let's not malign Jack because of it. He doesn't always make the best decisions, but he has a good heart. And a cute face.
Rockshire, Md.: Why is there recurring Mama Cass music? Is there symbolism that it's just MAMA Cass and not the Mamas and the Papas? Or maybe Ben's mother choked to death on a ham sandwich?
Jen Chaney: Damon Lindelof said at one point that his mom used to listen to Mama Cass, Petula Clark and the like. So that music is clearly evocative for him.
It's also nearly always used in ironic terms. Obviously Michael trying to plow his car into something and die is not the cheeriest scenario. So to hear "It's Getting Better" makes it even more dark.
Portland, Ore.: I am beginning to wonder whether we'll discover in the end that this was all a crazy fantasy of Hurley who never really left the asylum
Liz Kelly: Jen, if I recall correctly, the producers have said this is not the case. It's not a Hurley dream. Or anyone else's dream for that matter.
Jen Chaney: I believe they said that, too. Then again, maybe I was dreaming when I read that...
Denver: Michael needed a '60s (or '70s) car to crash into the crate because more modern cars have airbags. Plus, he may not have had a lot of money to buy a car to wreck. So he's definitely 2004.
Jen Chaney: Good point. His apartment wasn't exactly super-deluxe either.
Brooklyn, N.Y.: "I am curious to see what finally pushes him over the edge and onto Ben's team."
I think we found out a little bit about that last night. In "The Economist", when Ben was stitching Sayid up, he referred to something Sayid had done that messed things up for everyone ("remember what happened last time you thought with your heart and not your gun," or something to that effect).
I think that was in reference to Sayid turning in Michael to the captain and screwing up Ben's plan.
Jen Chaney: I am not sure that's what it was. I had the impression -- and I can't remember the exact dialogue at the moment, but something specific was said -- that a woman was involved.
Which made me think: Nadia. That's Sayid's weak spot and Ben always knows everyone's weak spots.
Liz Kelly: I can't remember the specific reference, either. But, yes, the implication was clear that Sayid had done something that led to something bad happening to someone he loved.
I think, though, that Sayid is also a stand up guy and maybe even knowing that that there are some Losties still stuck on that island and subject to Ben's mercy may be enough to keep him under Ben's thumb. But, as someone else said earlier -- Sayid never does anything that doesn't take him closer to his own aims.
Silver Spring, Md.: Only awkward man-date advice from Bernard can resolve Northern Virginia's C section dilemna. I'll go get the boat.
Jen Chaney: Make sure you talk to him about kharma. That always puts thing into perspective.
Chicago: Had Desmond and Michael ever met before last night's episode? I can't remember if they were ever in the hatch together.
Liz Kelly: Of course -- both are characters who had been around since the earlye beach and cave days.
Jen Chaney: I don't know, Liz. That thought crossed my mind, too. I don't remember them ever having a conversation. We didn't meet Des until season two, when Michael was off with the tailies.
Liz Kelly: Hmmm, good point. I obviously spaced.
Oceanic 6: I was gone on vacation last week, so wasn't around for chat participation, but one of the other chatters brought up a good point.
In Kate's trial, Jack's testimony is that 8 people survived the crash, 2 of whom died shortly after (looks like Jin is probably one of those 2). That would leave 6 which presumably are the "Oceanic 6"; Jack's testimony at the trial and the "Oceanic 6" ought to both match the official story given to the public. But since Aaron wasn't yet born when the plane crashed, how could he be one of the 8 who survived the crash? Therefore, how can he be one of the Oceanic 6? I'm still confused.
Liz Kelly: As Doc Jensen has said a few times recently, stop being so literal about the term "Oceanic 6." It's a media-invented catch phrase meant to translate well into a soundbyte and sounds better than "Oceanic Five and some random baby."
Jen Chaney: Yes, Liz made this point last week and it's a very good one to remember. Oceanic Six is an invention. There could be 10 people from the island who make it back somehow, if the other four are under the radar somehow. Clearly Ben has been zipping back and forth witbout anyone noticing.
Just because that term exists, we should not assume that only six people live or ever leave the island.
Fairfax, Va.: If the time travel theory that you linked is good, and I think it is, and the time on the island is 1996.. Isn't that before Walt would have been born? Maybe he is affected differently b/c he wasn't there to begin with? Also two babies, Alex and Aaron, are actually growing and changing. Maybe because they were born on the island, time treats them differently. Look how large Aaron is in Kate's forward flash.
Liz Kelly: Could be...
Jen Chaney: I definitely think being born or conceived on the island will have a weird effect on those kids. Good or bad? I haven't decided yet.
Los Angeles: No way is the actress how play Alex ugly. She has that hot exotic look. And those lips, my goodness. I'm still anxiously waiting for her flashback episode.
Jen Chaney: I don't think she is ugly. But I do think she looks like a prettier Amy Winehouse. Agreed?
Washington, D.C.: I haven't read your a.m. blog, but did you mention Tom's lover? Have we seen him before? (Did we even know that Tom was gay?) Was his lover in the video with Widmore? He must be significant, otherwise the writers wouldn't have put in that story-line. After all, we know that Tom eventually dies when Hurley runs over him with the van.
Jen Chaney: There were little suggestions that Tom was gay, but yes, he was indeed outed in last night's episode.
Your thought about the Widmore video ... could the lover have been the blindfolded guy? I didn't consider that but now I will hahve to go back to screenshots and see.
Juicy: The whole space-time bending thing hurts my brain and I really can't think about it too hard. I'm perfectly willing to just let this whole experience be as trippy as it needs to be and I'll just follow along aimlessly. But I do appreciate those of you are able to explain it in almost understandable terms to scientifically-challenged.
Couple of things I need to get off my chest though:
1. I love Kate. There. I said it. I'm sorry Liz. But she's my not-so-secret girl crush and I know she's a mess but I can't help myself.
2. I love Sayid even more. Does that even it out? I can't wait to see how he ends up working for Ben. Any theories on this, ladies?
3. I cannot believe it took them this long to kill off Karl. He was feeling very Paolo and Nikki to me. Good riddance.
And finally, I actually thought last night's episode was alright. It was no "Constant" but it provided a pretty good amount of information and we got rid of Karl. All good things, imo.
Liz Kelly: Fair enough.
Team Desmond: Yay for Team Desmond! Maybe we can get t-shirts made!
And no shame, Jen: Desmond is my screensaver.
Jen Chaney: Team Desmond. Des for Prez. I like it.
Oceanic 6: No, you are missing my point. My point is not that "Oceanic 6" must be literal. My point is --Jack's court testimony-- that 8 people initially survived the crash and made it to the island, two only to die later. 8 minus 2 equals six, which should mean that 6 people who were on the airplane at the time is crashed are publicly known to be alive and well.
Jen Chaney: Okay, gotcha. That's right.
So you're wondering who the two dead ones might be. This bolsters my theory that Jin dies at some point while attempting escape, but they bring back his body and bury him in Korea. They could still put a false date of death on his tombstone under those circumstances to stick to the story.
Gallery Place: I love love love me some Sayid, with Sawyer and Jack rounding out the hotness. But Des and Pen at the end of "The Constant" was brilliantly heartbreaking and had me crying. I'm completely torn about who to vote for!!!
Jen Chaney: It is a very difficult decision. The fabric of society hangs in the balance.
Alexandria, Va.: I really enjoyed the parallels that the writers created between Michael and Sayid with this episode. It makes the Sayid flash-forwards that much more poignant, like he has become Michael in the future. Working for Ben to atone for some horrible mistake he made. Maybe the Island is also preventing future Sayid from dying because he too "has work to do." But he ultimately knows how it will end for him, or maybe we do, with Michael's answer about why he is on the ship, "I'm here to die." A man without hope, without a future. Only working for redemption. The same as future Sayid. Which is why I found Sayid's line to Michael, "so now you work for Benjamin Linus" to be so ironic and makes his character that much more sad. Maybe he never finds redemption, but he pays for his sins ultimately.
Jen Chaney: Yes, very true. Sayid cannot understand at all why Michael would compromise himself.
And yet we already know that he will follow the exact same path.
Anonymous: Tania Raymonde has family/friends in this area so keep that in mind if you must discuss her looks.
Jen Chaney: I don't think she's ugly at all. You know, for the record.
And we're on the Internet. Everyone we talk about has family and friends in the "area" when you think about it.
Baltimore: So somewhere I read that Darlton stated that after last night we would know why Jack couldn't jump off the bridge at the end of last season. Are we to assume, then, that the Island is so powerful it could make a car crash behind him, knowing that given his personality he would have to try and save the people in it? I guess I shouldn't have more of a problem with that than with the idea that it could jam Michael's gun and heal him, but for some reason I do!
Jen Chaney: Again, is they are in the past, at least psychologically, the island will course correct. So Jack can't kill himself and neither can Michael. Circumstances will fail on purpose so they can't do it.
Does that make any sense? It does in my head but I'm not so sure if it does when I type.
I like this idea a lot for metaphorical reasons, too. All of our Losties were mired in their pasts, haunted by their sins. The implication here is that eventually they will catch up to real time and, perhaps, then they will be free again. I'm jumping ahead to that happy ending.
Wilmington, Del.: Desmond owns Sayid. His accent is better - his "brutha" is as good as it gets - and his story is compelling - from his romantic arc to his divinatory abilities. Don't get me wrong, Sayid deserves to be in the running, but Desmond is flat-out cooler than Sayid.
Jen Chaney: Well, those are just fighting words. I haven't voted yet, so I'm enjoying hearing all of these persuasive arguments.
I like both characters a lot. But I am leaning toward Desmond.
Liz Kelly: Well, it's a mighty match up, that's for sure.
Supply drop guy again: Hanso supplying in perpetuity -- but how does that supply plane get through the time warp/magnetic bubble/time machine?
Ooooh! I know! Since the guy said the island is looping the same 108 minutes over and over again, it just happened to catch the same moment in time in 1996 where the actual DHARMA plane was making its regular semiannual drop.
Odd. You'd think the Losties would figure a way to contact the supply plane if they saw it coming every other hour.
Jen Chaney: Maybe the supply plane knows to stay on Faraday's bearing. That's possible, right? (Someone back me up. Brain ... hurting ...)
Bolton, MA: Saying that Alex looks like a "prettier Amy Winehouse" is like saying that Libby looks like a "skinnier Mama Cass".
Jen Chaney: Ha!
No, I didn't mean it that way. Their faces are a little similar, but Alex is much more attractive.
Amy W. scares me a little, especially now that she has those skin problems. I've always thought that if she took off the make-up, she'd look like someone you shared a locker with in seventh grade. She's so tiny, and the hair and eyeliner tries to distract from that.
Liz Kelly: Please, don't make me talk about Amy Winehouse here.
Washington, D.C.: First off, I have to confess to being one of the men who cried at the end of "The Constant". I myself am Scottish and so have always liked Desmond's character and once they added the hopeless romantic trait there was no resisting. Now to last night's episode, for what it's worth I agree that Rousseau could probably (hopefully) be alive. I also think it wasn't Ben's people who ambushed them, but the ship's. Remember the errand the helicopter was going on with who we now know to be one of the combat trained shipmates? I think Ben set it up, but don't ask me how he knew to do it. The only thing I can think of is more brain hurting time travel stuff (and btw what if the supply drops all happened in the past but were flown on flight vectors to have it arrive in periodic intervals over years on the island?).
Liz Kelly: Good point -- we still don't know where Lapidus disappeared to with the copter last week. Though it could easily be the Others or Alpert and co. or a resurrected Mr. Eko zombie slinging the arrows of outrageous fortune at Karl and Rousseau.
Jen Chaney: I'm telling you, Lapidus went to CVS. There are, like, eight of them in and around the Greater Island Metro Area.
I love men who cry and aren't afraid to admit it. Kudos to you, sir.
I am really hoping our shooter is Alpert. That idea appeals to me.
Desmond T-Shirts: I swear I have nothing to do with these! But, they're what you're asking for.
Jen Chaney: Oh. My. God.
That T-shirt is so cheesy and ridiculous.
I want one. Now.
Des V Sayid: I have to say, this is the most brutal of all match ups. I love Sayid and his ability to really read situations and people. He is who I would want with me on that island. But....that said, I LOVE Des. First of all, I love his accent and that he calls people "brotha"-can't beat that. And Des knows what true love is, and he exudes it. He is who I would want to love me!
Jen Chaney: That's very sweet. Desmond was also a monk (briefly) and an Army man. So he's got the spiritual side and the warrior fighter going on. That said, Sayid has the breakdance move. He may be the only person on the show who could electric boogaloo someone to death. This is not to be ignored.
Liz Kelly: If anyone is a warrior, it is Mr. Republican Guard himself: Sayid Jarrah. We don't know if Des ever did anything in the military besides look cute in a beret.
Jen Chaney: Oh, Liz. Like looking cute in a beret isn't more than enough.
Liz Kelly: Thanks for joining us today. Sorry I bugged out a bit at the end. I was having a little wireless trouble here at the house. See you all back here on April 25th. And for XM listeners, Jen will be talking "Lost" next Thursday on XM.
Jen Chaney: Yes, I'll be on "Broadminded" next Thursday in the noon hour, I believe. So if you have the sat. radio (as opposed to the sat. phone), please tune in.
And lastly, don't forget to return to washingtonpost.com/lost on Tuesday to find out who won "Lost" Madness.
Team Desmond, Team Sayid -- It's officially on. Thanks, everyone.