Celebritology Live: Denise Richards; Muscular vs. Malnourished; Wentz Wear
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Thursday, June 5, 2008; 2:00 PM
When stars shave their heads, couch-jump, spend countless minutes in jail, commit a fashion faux pas and/or other random acts of ego-inspired inanity, washingtonpost.com Celebritology blogger Liz Kelly is on the job. Every weekday, Liz shares the buzz, offers perspective and provides crucial links to juicy alternate news sources and, of course, takes your reaction in her daily blog.
Join Liz LIVE every Thursday at 2 p.m. ET to gab about the latest celebrity pairings (and splittings), rising stars (and falling ones), and get the scoop on the latest gossip making waves across the Web.
In her pre-celeb obsessed days (as if!), Liz ran washingtonpost.com's Discussions section, where she enjoyed talking to really interesting people -- sometimes even Post reporters -- on the phone. She still produces Pulitzer-prize winner Gene Weingarten's weekly Chatological Humor discussion.
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Liz Kelly: Greetings from Florida where the air is hot, but not full of thunderstorms. I feel almost guilty having missed yesterday's big D.C. weather event. I'll try to soothe myself with a dip in the pool as soon as we're done chatting.
First a little breaking news: Despite completely ungrounded baby bumpage rumors, Paris Hilton's rep says the blonde ditzbell is not preggo. Just you wait -- she's not hanging out with Benji Madden for the good music. Or his savage tan. This oven is totally ready for its bun.
And hold on to your hair weave -- Britney Spears is set to cameo in the new Pussycat Dolls video. Me-owww. (Emphasis on the "ow."
I'll have a couple more links to share at the end, none of which have anything to do with "Lost" which is officially dead in the water until January. I may need to slip in just a couple of "Lost" questions, tho. Fear not, we return to Friday Lists tomorrow.
Let's get started...
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Virginia Beach, Va.: Weird thing happened -- last night I had a dream that Jolie had the twins, before I even heard the false rumors that she had had them. Does this mean I'm psychic, or do I need to take a break from all the celeb gossip?
Off topic -- I'm getting my boy baptized this Sunday. Should I go with pants and a dressy shirt, or should I do the whole white gown thing?
Liz Kelly: Hmm, well the false rumors actually circulated on Tuesday. So that may mean it's possible that you actually did hear the rumor and subconsciously filed it away only to have it emerge again in your dreams.
As for the baptism wear -- are you mom or dad? My answer would depend on that tidbit.
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17th and Mass, NW: Oh, Sharon Stone and your unbridled crazypants ways. I would hate you, or, worse yet, ignore you, but you get a free pass for doing this. Because, I mean, the question needed to be asked. I think this should be Sharon Stone's job from now on. Asking the questions no one else has the guts to. Next stop, Tyra Banks: Who the f-ck do you think you are, anyway?
Liz Kelly: Okay, this is great. Someone get this woman a reality show STAT.
Or perhaps she and Michael Richards could unite for a special edition of Celebrity Rehab to teach them how to think before blurting out the first [racist/inappropriate/dumb] words that enter the void between their ears.
Why is Sharon Stone even still famous? Shouldn't she be like retired to the land of Sean Young?
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Is She? Isn't She?: What do you (and the chatters) think about Lindsay and Samantha? Judging from the pictures at Cannes, they didn't seem too shy about putting their relationship on display. Now, even $1 million can't knock the closet door down. Should they just fess up already? Or are they taking the high road by keeping mum and letting everyone draw their own conclusions? Personally, I like them together. Admitting to the relationship can't be any worse than, say, stealing a fur coat or wearing jeans that conveniently come with crack in the pockets, right?
Liz Kelly: Well, if nothing else, LL is getting some good steady buzz out of keeping everyone guessing.
Here's my pet Lilo theory (or one that would fit all available facts): Lilo is gay. Lilo has been struggling with coming out for a couple of years, sending her into a maelstrom of wild, erratic behavior -- drugs, crashes, way too much partying. She's a young woman who was raised to be a pin-up girl and -- with parents like hers -- it isn't a stretch to think she'd have a hard time accepting herself.
My hope is that the latest buzz we're hearing means she has finally made some kind of peace with herself.
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Washington: What do you think of TMZ the TV show. It has the same effect on me as Mary Hart had on that epileptic woman.
Liz Kelly: Honestly, I don't like it. I get enough of that stuff online. The last way I want to spend my evenings is watching raw footage of celebs walking in and out of convenience stores hounded by packs of paps.
And, between you and me, I think TMZ online has been getting a little stale of late, too. I'm wondering if their take-no-prisoners in-your-face credo alienated too many publicists. They seem to subsist mainly on what they get from the bottom feeders (paps) now. I thought they used to have a bit more range and actually broke some major stories. Now the only thing they seem to break is the record for most pix of celeb wedgies.
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Even Further South Than Florida: Hi Liz!
I don't know if you have seen the latest Indian Jones movie, but I sure got a kick out of it, especially seeing Karen Allen again. She looks great. Did you know she has a knitwear business? I checked out her web site...about $800 for a sweater! No wonder we haven't seen her in movies for awhile.
Liz Kelly: I did see that -- I think on "Sunday Morning" last week. Good for her. Glad she didn't put all her eggs in the acting basket .
But $800 for a sweater? If I'm spending that (and I'm not), I'm getting Marc Jacobs (real Mark Jacobs) or Prada.
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Virginia Beach again: Yeah -- it must have been subconscious. Having a newborn is way too distracting. I need to pay more attention.
Regarding the baptism -- I'm the mom.
Liz Kelly: In that case, mom. I dunno -- White gown sounds kind of bridal. Maybe opt for a low-key sundress or a skirt and a twinset?
Anyone else out there know what moms are wearing to baptisms these days? $800 Karen Allen sweaters?
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Washington, D.C.: Liz - so are you gonna cover the Denise Richards and Dina Lohan shows in your blog, sort of a "Liz watches so you don't have to" type thing? A bunch of your loyal Celebritologists are dying for you to do so!
Liz Kelly: I will seek an answer for you and try to post it by the end of the show. I'm ready and willing, but need to clear it with the boss lady.
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byool, IN: Madonna: "muscular" or "malnourished"?
Discuss.
Liz Kelly: I'm going to err on the side of muscular.
This is malnourished.
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Pleats: Liz -- Pleated pants are a must for those of us who have certain anatomical features that are, shall we say, excessively exposed in flat front pants.
Liz Kelly: Please. We've been over this before. Everyone can do a flat front pant. You just need to find a pair that fit correctly. Don't get hung up on size. Just try until you find a pair that look and feel good. And you may need to involve a tailor.
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Herndon, Va.: Hi Liz: I'm so excited...I'm home today, I have power, and I can join your chat live and in person! Okay, so maybe I have no more siding on the west side of my house, but I get to chat live!
Question for you as a journalist...what are your thoughts on the Clinton Vanity Fair article? Is the reporter a sleaze bag? or a genius? And how did poor Gina Gershon get caught up in the mess? Talk about your obscure connections!
washingtonpost.com: The Comeback Id (Vanity Fair)
washingtonpost.com: And Joel Achenbach vouches for the writer, Todd Purdum, in glowing terms.
Liz Kelly: Okay, I haven't read Joel's bit about Todd Purdum yet, but I did read the Vanity Fair article last night.
I thought it was tabloid-level journalism and was amazed that VF ran such a poorly-sourced, thinly-veiled personal attack. And I don't say this because I happened to like Bill Clinton as a president, I say this because almost everyone Purdum tried to interview declined to speak to him. The allegations he does make -- about Clinton's alleged affair with Gina Gershon and the Canadian woman whose name escapes me -- are all attributed to "people close to the Clinton camp" and other such easy-out sources.
What was worse, to me, was Purdum's use of a Johns Hopkins doctor -- who has never treated Clinton -- to suggest that Bill is suffering from major depression and, quite possibly, some sort of diminished brain capacity following his open heart surgery. I mean, that play is straight out of the Star Magazine playbook.
Is Bill Clinton a saint? No. Did he deserve this? Absolutely not.
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Alexandria, Va.: Pete Wentz... constant hood. What's up with that?
Liz Kelly: He's not always in a hood. In this pic of Wentz in Vegas about a week ago he seems to be rocking some kind of surprisingly low-key ensemble.
Me, I prefer the hoodie. Especially when the hood is up and covering that horrid slicked down hair. My grandmother, who was born in the Ukraine, would've taken one look at Mr. Wentz and pronounced him a "Smacked Dupa."
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Seattle, Film Central: So, who's the latest baby bump we haven't heard about? And any other gay couples getting married in Cali other than Ellen de Generes?
Liz Kelly: Oh shoot. I saw a baby bump rumor just this morning. Who was that.
Thinking...
Thinking...
Ah yes, it was Eva Longoria, who one commenter on that site suggests probably "just ate an M&M."
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Baptisms, RS: Liz, the poster is inquiring about what THE BABY should wear to the Christening---gown or tiny pants ensemble...
Liz Kelly: Ohhhh! Silly me. See, I never baptized the dog or the cat, so this is all alien territory to me.
I'd say go for the gown, dude.
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Brooklyn, NYC: Do you think it's just a coincidence that the man who invented the pants suit died the same week as Hillary Clinton's campaign?
Liz Kelly: Maybe producer Paul can post a link to Weingarten's chat earlier this week. He composed a poem in honor of the confluence of these two events.
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Seattle, Battle of Lost Seattle: With the recent Seattle International Film Fest opening of "Battle of Seattle," and the cast including not just Charlize Theron (casting couch mistake in the film and the Q&A), but Michelle Rodriguez (formerly of "Lost"), do you hear of any other ex-Lostees who have moved into major film roles?
Michelle was a bit loopy at the Q&A, but nice in person and the best actress in the film, whereas Charlize was frosty and cold throughout.
Liz Kelly: Matthew Fox has had some modest success in finding roles: "Speed Racer," "Vantage Point" and "We Are Marshall" -- but I wouldn't call him a crossover at this point.
Evangeline Lilly, that gem, said she's got too much to concentrate on with "Lost" to even consider film offers right now. Hmm.
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Don't get hung up on size.: actually, I was trying to buy Flat fronts for my boyfriend and apparently they are impossible to find in the "Big and Tall" sizes. They had pants that almost seemed to be flat front but they had this creepy elastic extender panel. So at some point it does seem sizes matter.
Liz Kelly: Hmmm. Hey Menswear, Tysons Corner -- can you help this guy out?
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Embarassmentville, USA: Liz, you are the only one I can talk to about this. Ever since all the coverage on Pete Wentz and Ashlee Simpson, I've developed a weird thing for him. I noticed him in the one or two Fall Out Boy videos I've seen, and didn't think much of it. Now it's a full blown crush. And now he's married, and it actually makes me a little sad! (Did I mention I'm 28?) Should I feel like a loser for having my first celebrity crush in years on a guy like Pete Wentz? In my defense, and theirs, in all of their photos they do look ridiculously happy together. And they're a cute couple. I still hate her music though. Help, please.
Liz Kelly: Hey, the heart wants what it wants.
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byool, IN: By the way, Comment of the Week has to go to you for (a) your suggestion in Weingarten's chat for the team name in the breast cancer walk - "Jug Band" - and, in a tie (b) your link to the ScarJo pic.
We bow down before you.
Liz Kelly: Tee hee. Thanks much, byoo. You've been pretty on fire yourself this week. Stay tuned for Monday's Comment o' the Week winner(s).
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Liz Kelly: Thanks Producer Paul.
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Marina Del Rey, Calif:: Hello Liz!
So I had a dream a few nights ago that I was hanging out with Angelina and Brad. They were really cool. But I think this means I pay waaaaay too much attention to celebrity gossip. Is there a cure for this?
Liz Kelly: I don't know, but if so, I need it, too.
I had a dream last week that President Bush and Laura Bush called and begged me to hang out with Jenna. She didn't have many friends that were good influences, they said. They'd really appreciate the favor, they said.
I arrived at the White House and sat through a formal tea with Jenna -- who was really quite sweet in dreamland and didn't seem to be wearing hair extension -- as Laura hovered in the background sucking on her sticks of death.
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Madison, Wis.: A commenter asked this the other day, and I'm still wondering: was the infamous dress that Sarah Jessica Parker wore, the exact same dress that LiLo and that other chic wore? I mean, is it like when my coworker and I both buy the "same" sweater at J Crew, or is this some kind of super high-class tuxedo rental shop? And if it is a rental, how can they be mad that someone else wore it too? Do celebrities not actually buy and own the gowns they wear at premiers and such?
Liz Kelly: No -- I don't think it's the same actual article of clothing. Merely the same exact design.
Though I suppose that'd be possible. Celebs often do not own the clothing and jewelry they wear to premieres. The bigger the name, the more designers line up to get their clothes on the red carpet. One well-photographed event can equal big-time sales for them.
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Brooklyn, NY: Sorry, but I need to bring up Denise Richards fame again. There's no way she'd be famous without that Charlie Sheen, Heather Locklear, Richie Sambora crap.
Come on, those three were famous before, she wasnï¿1?2t. 10 years ago you knew who they were. Not Denise. Without that, youï¿1?2d be hearing as much about Denise Richards in the tabloids as you do about Bob Balaban or Laura Linney.
washingtonpost.com: The vast majority of straight males I know between the ages of 28 and 32 knew who she was 10 years ago.
Liz Kelly: Again, another reason to be thankful that producer Paul -- a straight male between the ages of 28 and 32 -- is behind he scenes today.
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Seattle, Stunned: Eva Langoria?
Isn't she too thin to complete a pregnancy?
Liz Kelly: Hey, if Nicole Richie can do it...
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To Everyone: If you want to wear pleated pants, wear them. Liz does not need to approve of your fashion choices, and we don't need to know about your anatomical glory.
Liz Kelly: I'm just going to put this out there as a PSA. And it's true, I don't need to approve -- but life would be so much easier for you if I did.
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Me, I prefer the hoodie. : I'd like to see him in a sundress or a twinset.
Liz Kelly: Big white hoodie -- the perfect baptism outfit for a little boy. And it's machine washable!
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wa?!: Laura Bush is a smoker?
Liz Kelly: Well in my dream she was.
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15th and L: When I worked at Tower Records sleeve tattoos were considered kind of extreme, even amongst us freak clerks, and somehow that made it more attractive to me. Now it seems more commonplace, what with Beckham and now John Mayer? I don't know what to think, I mean, John Mayer??
Liz Kelly: Are you saying John Mayer would never be cool enough to be a clerk at Tower Records? See, I could picture him there. But I draw the line at 9:30 Club bouncer.
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Mens Wear Dept, Tysons Corner: Alas, I can be of little help to the woman who is looking for plain front trousers for her large boyfriend. Her reports from the field are accurate. Once a man reaches a certain circumference, plain front trousers cease to be an option unless they come with an elasticized waist. And suits in such sizes usually offer only pleated trousers.
I am sorry.
But at least I am not hairy like another denizen of the blogs, whose name I shall not mention.
Liz Kelly: How interesting. Someone could get to work on some flat front husky sizes and make a heap of money. I would, but I'm so busy with this celebrity stuff.
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Arlington, Va.: Not that I care about defending Denise Richards, but she was great in "Drop Dead Gorgeous." Not as great as Allison Janey and Ellen Barkin, but still a worthy addition to a hilarious movie.
Liz Kelly: Thanks.
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Arlington, Va.: Remember when Shiloh Jolie-Pitt was born, and everyone said she had the best genetics ever? Why isn't there a similar fuss over Halle Berry's child, who, IMHO, is at least equally lucky genetically?
Liz Kelly: Is this the same woman who accused me of discriminating against Halle a few weeks ago? If so, welcome back!
I'm all for a fuss. Why don't you get us started. I suggest an exclamation point-studded posting here about how hot that baby is going to be in 20 years.
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Washington, D.C.: Someone mentioned in today's comments about Jenny McCarthy and Jim Carrey being in town to raise autism awareness. Any links about this? I saw a minivan headed to the event this morning covered with "honk if you know someone with autism," which is all well and good, but it also had slogans about how vaccines caused their kid's autism. Is the whole event about vaccines, or was that just the slant this particular minivan-driving parent was putting on it? As someone with Asperger's (which is on the autism spectrum), I find the whole vaccine theory kooky besides the fact that it's been discredited, and really, I'm not looking for a scapegoat to blame for making me who I am.
A little heavy for Celebritology, I know, so just for the record, put me down as completely anti-pleated pants. Oh, and apologies for setting off the torrent of Harvey Korman quotes the other day, but it probably would have happened anyway. Just wish I'd remembered "Don't get saucy with ME, Bernaise!"
Liz Kelly: I don't know the particulars of this week's rally and whether it embraced the entire Autism/Aspergers community or just the vaccine camp.
Did you read the article in last week's New York about this very topic -- the in-fighting between the various autism community factions? Really interesting stuff... especially the high-functioning folks who (at the extreme end) seek an end to autism treatment.
The Autism Rights Movement, (nymag.com)
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D.C.: Hey baby I hear the blues a'callin. Can you give a shout out to Kelsey Grammer and make him feel better? Thanks
Liz Kelly: I can give the shout out, but not sure it'll do much for good old Sideshow Bob.
While we're at it, though, let's all send a little good karma to Patrick Swayze, too.
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Reston, VA: Isn't Pete Wentz promoting a line of unisex clothing? Or am I thinking of someone else? Seems to me a twinset is not that far from the realm of possibility.
Liz Kelly: See, when I first scanned this comment, I thought you said he was promoting a line of unitards. And that would just be the coolest.
Unitards and hoodies for all.
Funny, we don't hear much about Pete and Ashlee's relationship with papa Joe Simpson. I wonder if he, like Tony Romo (currently dating Jessica) bristles at Joe's involvement in his daughters' lives and management.
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Atlanta: Lilo may just be experimenting. Lots of people do.
Liz Kelly: Right, 'xactly. And more power to her.
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Dreams: I have a recurring dream I am a character on "Lost" (but in real life -- I'm stuck on the island, I'm not an actor). In last night's dream. Kate got off the island (but not with the Oceanic Six, on her own). Also, my cat was there. What does this mean for season 5 of "Lost"?
washingtonpost.com: When the main characters go off to do something dangerous, do not offer to tag along.
Liz Kelly: I'm not sure, but I think your cat has some 'splainin to do.
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Sasquatch: Hey Liz, is the Mister down there with you? If he's still on the home front, would you be okay if I dropped by later tonight for some male bonding over mojitos?
Liz Kelly: He's home with the cat and dog. I'll tell him to expect you at, say, 7:30? You bring the mojitos and he'll get the dog brush sterilized before you arrive.
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"Someone could get to work on some flat front husky sizes and make a heap of money.": They would, in fact, make no money. You're deluding yourself. It's not a good look for men of a certain girth (and this is coming from a woman who goes for, um, less-than-lean men).
Liz Kelly: No, it's you who is delusional. On a person who is already wider in the middle than at the ankles pleats will only exaggerate the body's resemblance to a snow cone. (think big on top, tiny at bottom).
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ME: I'd like to experiment with LiLo
Ronson, not so much
Liz Kelly: Well, that makes your Ronson in this situation.
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"There's no way she'd be famous...": Being a Bond Girl doesn't qualify her as famous in her own right?
Liz Kelly: Name five other Bond girls -- without googling!
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Brooklyn: "The vast majority of straight males I know between the ages of 28 and 32 knew"
Exactly how many men in this four-year age span do you know that you can refer to a vast majority (and why)?
So the reason I'm befuddled by her fame is because I'm 35 and was living in London 10 years ago?
washingtonpost.com: I'm just saying that I can remember "Wild Things" being the subject of a lot of discussion among my peer group upon its release. Or maybe my friends just talk about great movie nude scenes more than most? (Denise's scene was also the scene Katherine Heigel gets excited about in "Knocked Up.") I take it full-frontal Kevin Bacon did not inspire the same attention among our female readers?
Liz Kelly: I'm just going to stand over here and let the Maxim contingent fully take this chat over.
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Los Angeles: Wait! Tony Romo is "currently dating Jessica"? I thought they were finito and Tony was hiding out in training camp....
Liz Kelly: No, according to Us they are "on again" -- but Tony has apparently put Papa Joe on his guard, telling him to back off or else he's outta there.
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Vincent: Since we're not yet at our quota of Lost-related questions, can I suggest a way to fill the gap until January is to have Vincent as a chat guest? Okay, yes, the trainer, too.
Liz Kelly: Not a bad idea.
Though Jen and I are pretty sure we're going to re-launch the monthly "Lost" Book Club and chats.
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LiLo: Samantha who?? What is going on?
Liz Kelly: Ronson.
This.
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Name five other Bond girls -- without googling!: Do I have to name them without ogling?
washingtonpost.com: Halle Barry, Ursula Andress, Jacquline Smith, Britt Eckland, Olivia D'Abo, Kim Bassinger, Sophie Marceau, Teri Hatcher.
Liz Kelly: Paul. I think you need a date.
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Bond Girls: Catherine Bach
Britt Eklund
Jill St. James
Ursula Andress
Jane Seymour
And no, I didn't google. That's off the top of my head.
Liz Kelly: You, too.
(kidding)
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Manassas, Va.: Does it have to be said? Sharon Stone is still famous for performing one really really great scene in one movie
washingtonpost.com: I assume you mean "Casino"?
Liz Kelly: No, no, no -- she means "Gloria."
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Anonymous: "Not that I care about defending Denise Richards, but she was great in "Drop Dead Gorgeous." Not as great as Allison Janey and Ellen Barkin, but still a worthy addition to a hilarious movie."
My point exactly. Who's gossiping about Ellen Barkin and Allison Janey? Barkin used to, but not any more.
Liz Kelly: Hey, gossip is up and down. Ellen Barkin was in the tabs all the time when divorcing Ron Perelman.
Just think -- last week Tatum O'Neal was nowhere to be found. This week, she's crack-loving cover gold.
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D.C.: Do you ever get asked to be one of those people who do snarky bits on those VH-1 shows that make fun of celebs? If you do, please turn it down. These people look like so petty and jealous it's pathetic. A bunch of people I've never heard of mocking people they clearly wish they could be.
Liz Kelly: Okay. Well, if that offer is ever made, I'll remember this advice.
Maybe I haven't been on VH1, but I'm HUGE in Yemen where I've weighed in a few times for Al Arabiya.
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1600 Penn, NW: Yep, Laura Bush is a smoker. She has admitted it's horrible but she sneaks one every once in a while.
Liz Kelly: I might have to start smoking again, too, if--
Well, nevermind.
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Brookie: I'm really sorry for permutations on this tangent and I'll stop after this. But I want to clarify I'm not talking about being famous. I'm talking about a certain level of fame that I believe she's overstepped.
By all means, she should be famous. But not a weekly mainstay on this chat. Of course, I am to blame for that.
Liz Kelly: Right. Thank you. You've finally figured this one out.
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Olivia D'abo??: She's the older sister on "The Wonder Years"--not a Bond girl.
washingtonpost.com: Crud, you're right, I meant Maryam D'Abo.
Liz Kelly: Sheesh Paul. Get your Bond girls straight.
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WDC: My BF fits into that straight-guys-between-28-and-32 category, and I guar-an-tee you that he knew who Denise Richards was 10 years ago (when we met). So much so that I developed a little bit of a complex about it at the time. Paul is right--guys that age distinctly remember Wild Things.
Liz Kelly: Speaking of full frontal. Hello, Viggo Mortenson in "Eastern Promises."
And on that note, I'm done for the day.
As promised, a link to help pass the rest of the afternoon: Rosie O'Donnell on the Howard Stern show, sure... it may be long and you may hate both of them with a passion and this maybe be a little Not Safe For Work. But this is some good interview.
Thanks for coming. See you here next week and in the blog tomorrow for a Friday List.
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Washington: Tatum O'Neal backwards is Lean O'Mutat
Liz Kelly: Check.
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