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The Flight Crew
Washington Post Travel Section
Monday, June 30, 2008; 2:00 PM

Got a travel-related question, comment, suspicion, warning, gripe, sad tale or happy ending? The Post Travel Section Flight Crew is at your service.

On the itinerary this week: playing miniature golf in Myrtle Beach, staying fit while on the road and seeing Manhattan by rickshaw.

All other travel topics are open as well. If you have insights, ideas or information to add to the discussion, just press the call button above your seat and we'll get to you as soon as we can. Different members of the Crew will rotate through the captain's chair every week, but the one constant is you, our valued passengers.

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A transcript follows.

You may also browse an archive of previous live travel discussions. For daily dispatches, check out Travel Log, the Travel section's new blog.

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Scott Vogel: Welcome, all ye intrepid summer vacation planners. It's time once again for our roundtable travel discussion. Today we're joined by the Post's own Maryann Haggerty, our well-traveled Post Real Estate editor, and also Abigail Bain-Lance, who also stands ready to help with all your queries and conundrums.

But let's get to the fun part: today's quiz. With a flag-waving holiday looming, today we want to know about your most memorable Fourth of July weekend, the one that either made you swell with patriotic pride or cringe with ... well, you tell us. The most interesting tidbit wins a nice prize, a copy of the 2008 Zagat Movie Guide, a handy compendium by the folks known for all those dining guides. May the best patriot win....

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Detroit, Mich.: I am traveling into DC this year for a Capitol Fourth (very excited), and am looking for things to do throughout the week in the Nation's Capitol. I was told by a friend from Northern Virginia that there is a dress rehearsal of the fireworks on July 3 that is open to the public. Any idea if this is true?

Scott Vogel: Good for you, you'll have a terrific time. As for the celebration, there is indeed a dress rehearsal, but it is of the concert and not the fireworks themselves. Still, you are correct: it's free and this year's concert participants will include Jimmy Smits, Brian Stokes Mitchell and Huey Lewis and the News. For lots more things to do, see the City Guide at WashingtonPost.com (link below).

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washingtonpost.com: Fourth of July Guide 2008 (washingtonpost;com)

Scott Vogel: here you go.

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Annapolis, Md.: Hello, I'm looking for some help. My daughter loves horses and wants to go on a pony ride. We are planning a trip to Luray Caverns area, any ideas or first hand accounts of places we could try? Thanks.

Scott Vogel: Not sure I can help you with Luray proper, but some folks here are quite high on the Rocking S Ranch, located "in the foothills and ridges of the beautiful northern Shenandoah Valley" in Winchester, which isn't terribly far away. Check www.therockingsranch.com.

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Tour Companies: Hi Crew,

Thank you for taking my question. We are baby boomers, 53 and 45 years young, who are active, like to be intellectually challenged, excellent guides, don't need to be pampered, but, ahem, prefer not to be with a group composed of 90% retirees on a tour. We also like a "twist of the unlikely" on a given tour. For obvious reasons, we love touring due to lack of forethought into directions and lodging.

Are there some quality, yet good value companies that you would recommend that generically are excellent companies that fit our demographic needs?

I personally think this will be a big issue in the coming decades. Appreciate your thoughts!

Maryann Haggerty: I would hesitate to recommend individual companies, because ALL of them have made SOME mistakes--even the very best--it's the nature of things. But maybe you folks out there are less hesitant?

Your real challenge there is finding a group that's right at your age. There are plenty of companies out here that target cash-strapped kids. And then there are lots of groups aimed at people with money and seniority.

I've also found that in a lot of circumstances,especially in pricey destinations, you may find a lot of people in your age group who are monied early retirees.

Think about what you'll want to do. Do you want some activity? That will determine a lot about the age of the group. If you're going to Branson, there may be older folks in the group. If you're going to hike the Inca Trail, there may not be many 90 year olds. Or if there are, they will be in better shape than you are.

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Arlington, Va.: A friend of mine wants to take some of her mother's fried chicken down to a relative in Miami. I looked on the TSA web site and couldn't find anything against it. Would you happen to know how TSA deals with prepared foods that is clearly visible when viewed by either eye or those fancy machines?

Maryann Haggerty: Food is fine. Liquid needs to be bought inside of security.

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Arlington, Va.: Had a horrible experience flying back from Vegas on a USAir "red-eye" on June 17. Without going into too much detail, sat at the gate on multiple planes for many hours, got routed through Phoenix, sat in Phoenix for a long time, and then finally landed at BWI at approx. 3:30 p.m. Only bright spot was the passengers took it well and the flight attendants were wonderful. Just curious if you heard from any other passengers . . .

Christina Talcott: Boy, that sounds awful! We haven't heard from anyone else on that flight, as far as I know, but I'm glad to hear the passengers and flight attendants were all patient and well-behaved. Anyone out there who were also on that memorable flight?

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Maryann Haggerty: My Travel section friends have asked me to jump in mostly because I sit nearby--but I've also been an occasional contributor to the section over many years.

I spent yesterday down on the Mall dreaming of a future trip to Bhutan. But more realistically, my summer break this year is likely to be a drive through the Southwestern Virginia/northern North Carolina hills. Sigh. I'm sure it will be lovely...

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Arlington, Va.: I've got an 8pm flight out of BWI in July and figure that I'll eat dinner there with the kids (both older teens) before we board. I'm totally unfamiliar with BWI, however, so do you have any suggestions of where we can get a non-fast-food meal (and where it's located in the airport)? Thanks.

Scott Vogel: Hi Arlington -- The options aren't many, but if you're a seafood lover, consider Obrycki's and Philip's. Both are in Terminal B. And below we'll post a link to other BWI restaurant offerings.

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washingtonpost.com: Shopping and Dining at BWI

Scott Vogel: Here it is.

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Reston : For a 3 night visit to the Hudson Valley -- summer, or definitely wait until fall? And if fall, what time period -- early Sept, late Sept, early Oct? Thanks!

Scott Vogel: I'd say late September or mid-October, because then it'll be peak leaf season. Should be gorgeous. Anyone else have any ideas?

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Washington, D.C.: Just got off a $95 round trip DCA to Fort Lauderdale on Spirit and booked another. I'm not sure how they do it but they do.

Scott Vogel: Good for you -- thankfully, there are still a few deals to be found out there...

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BWI this weekend: My brother and his wife are flying out of BWI early Saturday morning (7:30 flight). Does anyone have any idea if the Daily Parking Garage usually fills up on a summer holiday weekend? I'm not certain if I should direct them there or to one of the off-site places. Thanks!

Maryann Haggerty: Because many people will be leaving Thursday this weekend, you can likely count on heavy use of all parking options. But one of the better things about BWI is how well-signed the parking is. You can tell from far enough away how full the lots are.

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Tampa, Fla.: Just got back from a 5-day trip to Sedona, AZ (with a one day side trip to the Grand Canyon). Great place to visit, but here's some info if anyone is planning to visit Sedona - there is major road construction on Rt 179 from Oak Creek to the intersection of 179 and 89 in Sedona. Apparently they are widening some places, putting sidewalks in, etc. It will make your travel through town very slow going - speed limits through the area are anywhere from 25-35 miles per hour. The project is supposed to take about a year and a half, and they just got started about 4 months ago (at least that's what one of the locals told us).

But here is really why I am writing. - We purchased our airline tickets through CheapTickets. We got a flight from Tampa to Sedona through Continental and the return flight was through US Airways. We ended up having to return home a day early, so we contacted US Airways to change the flight. Turns out that the whole trip was ticketed through Continental, so we had to call them to change the ticket, although they told us that we would print our our boarding passes on the US Airways website, since they were the airline we would be traveling on (when we made the initial plans, we did get separate confirmations numbers for each airline). However, when I went on the US Airways website to check in and print out our boarding passes, they couldn't locate them. It took about 2 hours and several calls between US Airways and Continental to get everything straight. So, we have learned our lesson. If we book using CheapTickets again, if the outbound and inbound airlines are not the same - don't book it - it isn't worth the hassle if you have to make a change later on.

Maryann Haggerty: Oh, lord, that Sedona construction! The started building a traffic circle at the end of "my" street on the day I arrived this spring. ("My" intersection is the spot where I need to take a left turn to get from the rented house to the grocery store...) They started actual construction a few months ago, but began arguing about it years ago. Those folks make DC-area suburbanites look like amateurs on traffic construction battles.
And thanks for the heads-up on Cheap Tickets. Actually, I suspect other third party booking sites might also have complications.

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College Park, Md.: Hi, Crew,

We have a student visiting from Ireland (no car, no int'l driver's license) who would like to visit the beach (any beach) when his girlfriend arrives next month.

I see Greyhound has a bus departing daily to Ocean City, MD. Could you make any other suggestions (closer beach, something other than bus, etc.) that might be good for him?

Carol Sottili: He'll probably enjoy Ocean City. It attracts lots of young people, and it offers lots of fun nightlife, in addition to the beach/boardwalk. He may also want to try Craig's List or the bulletin boards at local colleges to see if anyone wants to rideshare. Rehoboth is a little closer, but it's not close enough to make it much easier to get to.

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Judiciary Square: Hi gang,

Looking for some info or first hand accounts of Bedford Springs Resort, it's an ad in the Travel Section front page? I'd never really heard of it until the ad. Has anyone been, liked it, good buy, close location, any other info? Thanks.

Christina Talcott: Our departed colleague Cindy visited Bedford Springs last year and liked it. A link to the story's coming up.

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washingtonpost.com: Springs Awakening (Post Travel Section, Aug 29, 2007)

Christina Talcott: Here you go.

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Washington, D.C.: I don't need the prize, but my most memorable 4th weekend was watching the hot dog eating contest in Coney Island. Despite the hilarious commentary, watching it on ESPN does not compare to the sights and smells of watching live in 90 degree plus heat. Kobiyashi won, but his competitors made me want to hurl, as they struggled to get the dogs and water soaked buns down.

washingtonpost.com: Here's a little plug for a discussion Thursday morning with champion competitive eater Sonya Thomas.

Scott Vogel: Well, there you go. I've always been intrigued by that contest too. Love those Nathan's dogs.

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D.C.: Will you please notify US Airways that the FAA regulation that states that passengers cannot get out of their seats within an hour of landing in DC has expired?

I was on the Wednesday, June 25 flight from New Orleans to DCA and this regulation was implemented.

It really bothers me that I am 36,000 feet in the air and my pilots are enforcing regulations that have been expired for years.

Christina Talcott: I feel your pain! We've been hearing from others who've had similar experiences with that rule. Let's just get it out there: Airlines, that rule has EXPIRED! Please notify your flight crews!

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Washington, D.C.: Where on the East Coast would you take a fisherman for a romantic getaway in August - I'm hoping for one day of his sport, then places to wander, fine-dine, maybe cycle? And he's from the Caribbean, in case that's fishing-relevant. Could it be as close as Kent Island or St. Michael's? thanks!

Carol Sottili: I just got back from a trip to the Virginia Eastern Shore, and it's a popular place to fish. In the towns of Cape Charles and Onancock, there are plenty of very nice B-and-Bs. The peninsula also offers cycling opportunities, antiquing, wineries and general peace-and-quiet. For more info, go to www.esvatourism.org. I'll post a link to the article I wrote - it's not about fishing, but will give you an idea of what to expect.

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Washington, D.C. to ?: Hi Flight Crew - My boyfriend FINALLY got a passport, and I'd like to take him somewhere for his birthday in September or early October so get his first ever Passport Stamp. It'll just be for the weekend since I'm footing the entire bill - where can I get the best package deal (flight and hotel). Anything all-inclusive would be a bonus as well! Also, it'd be great if we don't spend a whole day traveling...the closer, the better! Thanks!

Maryann Haggerty: What a lovely idea!
Your cheapest ventures are likely into the very closest places--Mexico or Bahamas. You can find package deals to those locations on just about any travel web site--and of course there are always pointers to the best deals in the Sunday Travel section.

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Washington, D.C.: I'm planning a two week European trip later this summer, and will be in both urban and more rural settings, and will include one formal event! I am a notoriously heavy packer, and really want to avoid lugging too much around on this trip. I vaguely remember a travel section article claiming that any trip could be done with carry-on luggage. Can you point me to that article, or share any additional resources or tips on how/what to pack? Thanks!

washingtonpost.com: Addicted to Overpacking? Try This 5-Step Program (Post Travel Section, Nov. 5, 2006)

Maryann Haggerty: A colleague who just returned today from a family trip had scary tales to tell of how the airlines have begun enforcing 50-pound weight limits on bags. She said the airport was full of people who were unpacking and repacking all their bags to get them in under the limit. So we now have new reasons to pack even lighter....
I'm sure we all have plenty of specific pack-lighter tips. What works for me: Keep shoes to an absolute minimum, and plan to buy books as you go.

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Washington, D.C.: We are taking our two kids (age 13 and 11) to Hawaii. Can we reasonably see three islands in a trip of 10 days? We definitely want to see Oahu and The Big Island, and maybe Maui if there is time. We are wondering whether to use a travel agent since we may want to fly into one island and fly out from another island to avoid spending our whole trip traveling between islands. Any other suggestions would be appreciated.

Scott Vogel: I'm gonna split the difference and recommend you see two islands. Three is a lot to pack in, especially if one of them is the Big Island, which is, well, big, and repays a few days of visiting. Another thing to consider: with the recent demise of Aloha Airlines, inter-island flights are pricier than ever. A travel agent is worth looking into for this trip, I'd say.

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Arlington, Va.: Not quite July 4, but I was in Lyon, France on Bastille Day July 14 and my companion and I were royally treated to food and beer by some French citizens celebrating their holiday. It is interesting that they are just as gleeful and exhuberant about their holiday as we are about ours.

Scott Vogel: Vive la France...

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Reston, Va.: I'm interested in the Palace Resorts in Mexico, but when I look at the reviews online, like on TripAdvisor, they're completely polarized. Particularly, there are lots and lots of reviews saying the staff are unfriendly and the food is terrible. Of course, there are also many, many reviews saying just the opposite. Has anyone stayed there, and has opinions to share? I can normally get the feel for a place from online reviews, but these are strange to me.

Carol Sottili: I haven't stayed in a Palace property, but have stayed in a couple of other all-inclusive resorts in Cancun. Expectation is the key reason for such differences in opinion. We didn't expect fine dining, five-star service or top-shelf booze. We realized that, for the price, there would be trade-offs. And we had a good time. If you're not all that fussy, and you're happy being in a crowd, you'll probably enjoy it. If you like privacy and high-end resorts, not so much. Anyone out there have first-hand experience with Palace Resorts?

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To rough it in style: head 3 hours west to Frostburg MD and try SAVAGE RIVER LODGE. 18 very comfortable, luxury cabins, on 42 acres of dense forests, with trails (hiking and cross-country skiing), fly-fishing classes, nearby biking trails, excellent food and great hospitality. PLUS not only do they accept your dog, they really make him feel welcome.

It was raining on and off this weekend so we just chilled and read (No TV, WiFi in the lodge only). My other favorite, in a different style is L'AUBERGE PROVENCALE in White Post VA.

Christina Talcott: That sounds great. I can imagine there's a little bit of a price difference between Savage River and L'Auberge, no? But great recs, especially for dogparents.

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Washington, D.C.: My most memorable 4th of July experience was when I was backpacking through Europe in 1999. I was in Amsterdam for the 4th of July, and imagine my joy when I happened upon a large group of young Dutch people celebrating our national holiday - complete with Dr. Seuss-style red, white and blue hats and a large sign reading: "Jerry Springer trailer trash U.S. independence celebration". The only way it could have been better is if they had all been wearing red bathing suits to commemorate our other famous American export - Baywatch.

Scott Vogel: What an odd take on the holiday, but yes, memorable is the word.

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washingtonpost.com: Paddle Fatigue on Virginia's Eastern Shore (Washington Post, June 18)

Carol Sottili: Here's the VA Eastern Shore story.

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Washington, D.C.: Love the chats and wondering if you could help me with something this time. We're interested in going to Croatia this summer and have a few questions: What's the best place to fly to, Vienna? Or Zagreb? If the former, how do you get to Croatia and what's the best way of traveling once there? I seem to remember a Post article on Croatia not too long ago. Could you provide the link? Thanks a lot

washingtonpost.com: Croatia Travel Stories (Post Travel Section archives)

Abigail Bain-Lance: Croatia is a wonderful destination, especially in summer. I visited in March, and many of the small farm towns were just starting to come alive as summer artist colonies, and they're just a few hours away from Zagreb. You would probably want to fly into Zagreb for its convenience; nice to start out in-country if you have limited time. The city is easy to navigate by foot and tram (not to mention the funicular), and between museums, historic sites and cafes, there's more than enough to do to fill a few days. Dubrovnik is supposed to be sensational if you go south (you might want to catch some of the Dubrovnik Summer Festival in July and August), but I chose to go towards the Istrian Coast, right across from Italy for Roman ruins, and a Riveria type feel. Driving allows you to stop at all sorts of small hamlets on the way (see artist colony mention above!), stay in farm houses that become b and bs in season, and meander along old and scenic byways. You can also travel by bus, but you'll not have the flexibility of seeing the more out of the way spots.

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Arlington, Va.: I have an upcoming afternoon flight on AA, w/a 40 min. connection at DFW. Being summertime w/all the storm delay potential, I'm worried about my bag not making the connection, or worse, myself. Any experience w/this airport? From what I understand it's huge.

Maryann Haggerty: It's huge.
And 40 minutes may not even be a legal connection there in the best of weather. (Tho I see some things that say 35 minutes is legal, but c'mon.)
So assume there are possible problems. If you check luggage, make sure it is well-tagged to your final destination. Carry a change of clothes in your carry-on, as well as basic toiletries and the usual. Pay attention when the flight attendant makes the gate arrival-departure announcements and be prepared to move quickly.

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Baltimore, Md: Does Farecast take into account fares from discount carriers like Southwest? I need to buy a ticket for an early November trip to the West Coast. Farecast says fares will likely go down, but I am worried about letting current SWA prices ($149 each way) slip by...

Carol Sottili: I don't believe Southwest is included in its data. If you can get a $298 round trip, especially if that includes taxes and is a nonstop flight, go for it.

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Bologna, Italy: I noticed last week someone asked about traveling to Naples this fall/winter... I've gotta tell you -- I've lived in Italy a total of 1.5 years now; I love the south, have been to Naples and Pompeii twice now, but I wouldn't recommend that anyone go there at the moment. The garbage crisis is STILL going on and getting more and more out of control. I was there in January when it had only just started, and it wasn't too bad then -- but that was during the winter and nearly half a year ago now. You also have to realize that it's not just the city of Naples itself but can be even worse in surrounding towns, including those housing the ruins of Pompeii and Herculaneum -- when I was in Herculaneum, the piles of trash around the dumpster were at least 6 feet high. See example here (YouTube).

I hate to discourage anyone from coming to Italy, especially the underrated South, but now's not the time for Napoli. I mean, it's possible they'll have their act "cleaned up" by the time you go, but I wouldn't bet $800+ tickets on it. Go to Puglia or the Salento if you want southern Italy, or the Marche or Umbria or even Bologna -- we've got a chocolate festival in late November/early December!

Scott Vogel: Here's hoping last week's Naples hopeful has signed on this week. Interesting stuff, thanks.

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4th of July: I'll never forget being a High School exchange student abroad in England for the 4th of July and having one young man from our group wish everyone (i.e. the Brits) a Happy 4th -- awkward.

Scott Vogel: Of all places!

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NY, NY: Hi Crew -

Not so much one particularly memorable Fourth so much as a fun family tradition. Instead of a normal cook-out my family celebrates the Fourth with a luau to salute to the last state to join the Union - Hawaii.

It's a little different every year (a roast pig was particularly memorable) but there are always plenty of mai tai's and grass skirts to go around.

Scott Vogel: Okay, if nothing else, you win Best Excuse to Have a Mai Tai. Thanks.

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Falls Church: Got engaged at Bedford Springs. We had a wonderful time and the resort was beautiful.

Christina Talcott: Congratulations! And thanks for chiming in!

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Oviedo, Florida: I just booked a two day trip rafting in central Utah with an outfitter. Temps up to 100 on the water, which of course will reflect it up. Aside from high-test SPF and long sleeve shirt and hat - any advice for making this memorable and not fry zone? How can we maximize this treat safely? The river is high so things will move along quickly.

Also gonna see the aerial stunt ski show at Olympic Park in Park City (skiers plunge into pools in the absence of snow.)

Way to turn 50...

Christina Talcott: That sounds incredible. Look in next Sunday's section for a story about just that - rafting in Utah. Last year we a story about rafting in the Grand Canyon, which we'll link to, but in the meantime, can anyone offer any advice on hot-weather rafting survival?

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Packing Light: My favorite piece of travel clothing is my nylon pants with the zip-off legs. They dry really fast after a rainstorm, and they can turn into shorts. I wore them constantly during a 10-day trip in Ireland.

Christina Talcott: Great suggestion. I'm all about quick-drying travel gear.

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Downtown DC: I am celebrating 4th of July in Montreal at the Int'l Jazz Festival. I wanted to share a money-saving travel tip, as round trip flights to Montreal have hovered around $500 for the last 3 months (I've been monitoring!). Airtran has $49, $69, and $119 flights to Burlington, Vermont(approx. 1.5 hours long). Once in Burlington, take the Greyhound (2.5 hours) to the city center in Montreal. A single way bus ticket was $26. With tolls and gas expenses, this might be cheaper than driving 10 hours up to the border. Plus, as I understand it, the Greyhound buses have a special shorter line to get through border crossings.

Enjoy the 4th!

Scott Vogel: Great suggestion, Downtown. I can't imagine getting there cheaper, and even if gas weren't expensive, the drive is murderously long IMHO.

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Dupont Circle: Two years ago I flew back from Sydney via LAX. The flight was delayed two hours in Sydney while they tried to fix a broken toilet. They gave us ice cream bars while waiting. I missed my connection in LA and got back to Dulles, very, very late. It was my longest 4th ever considering Sydney is 17 hours ahead of the east coast. On the flight from LA to DC I got to see fireworks displays all over the country. It was really beautiful and made those final 5 hours fly by.

Scott Vogel: Okay, that is just cool. Not to mention a great consolation.

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Washington DC: Please help! I leave for Costa Rica in a few weeks, and don't know where to spend the last 2 or 3 days of my trip. The first week will be spent on the Nicoya peninsula, and I'm debating whether to head to Monteverde or Manuel Antonio (or perhaps somewhere else) after that. Any advice? Thanks!

Maryann Haggerty: Monteverde and Manuel Antonio are different places. The cloud forests of Monteverde are a unique ecosystem. Getting to them requires driving over some horrendous roads. The hiking/nature watching is intense--but may or may not be to everyone's taste.
Manuel Antonio has both beaches and rain forests. You can combine sun/sand and bird hikes. Given a choice, I chose to return to Manuel Antonio on a second trip to CR, not to Monteverde. Some people might say there are too many people at M.A.--but I like Costa Ricans. If you've had all the beach/surf action you can stand in Nicoya, you might prefer Monteverde.

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BWI Parking: Don't forget to print out the coupon. Even though it's for the Express lot across from the garage, the garage honors it if the lot is full. Chances are high that the lot will be full.

Maryann Haggerty: Oh, yes. Thanks.

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Remembrance of July 4's Past: Two and a half memories of July 4th. As a child, we would load up the station wagon that night and head to the only shopping center in town. We parked there and climbed on top of the car to watch the fireworks. Ah, small city life long ago! In grad school in Baltimore, one year it rained and my friends and I spread a tablecloth on the floor of my apartment and had our picnic indoors. I still treasure that memory. And yes, another Bastille Day celebration in Paris with fireworks at Invalides. Spectacular!

Scott Vogel: Good stuff...

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Fairfax, Va.: Traveling to Cancun mid-August with daughters 17 and 20, each bringing a friend. Staying in a condo near the south end of the hotel zone. Primary plan is to hang on the beach with one day scuba diving and a day trip to Tulum where we have arranged a tour which includes cenote snorkeling and some time with the sea turtles.

Should we plan on adding Xcaret, Xel-Ha or Chichen Itza as "must see" attractions? I have heard that Chichen Itza gets very crowded with tours unless you go early and I am not sure how much history everyone wants to take in. Anything else you recommend on the Riviera Maya? Also, is it as easy to get around on the buses as everyone seems to claim? How safe is it for a couple of 20 year old girls at the nightclubs?

Carol Sottili: One way to see the ruins without spending an entire day is to get up early and hire your own cab to take you there. It's more expensive, but you won't have to devote an entire day. I haven't been to Xcaret or Xel-Ha - any chatter out there have something to say? We did do a great tour with a group called Alltournative (www.alltournative.com). As for safety, I found Riviera Maya very safe, and the drinking age is 18, but you have to know your girls. Maybe start by allowing them to go to the club in your hotel? A friend of mine and her husband went with their two 20somethings on a pub crawl - there are buses that will take you from club to club - and they had lots of fun doing that together.

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Best and worst July 4: Best story: Age 19, down on the Mall, spiked watermelon, listening to THE BEACH BOYS play live!!!!

Worst story: Age 8, in the hospital for some high fever illness, but cruised the hallways long enough to see a boy with bandages over his eye because fireworks took it out.

Scott Vogel: Wow. Wait, was this 1980? I was on the Mall too! And you were one of those people passed out in 100 degree heat?

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washingtonpost.com: On the Colorado, the Dress Code Is Casual-Wet (Post Travel Section, Sept. 30, 2007)

Christina Talcott: For the Utah rafter. Happy 50th!

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Arlington, VA: sounds like the boomers looking for a tour company are probably better candidates for "independent" tours rather than group tours. I suppose they probably cost a bit more, but you have your own guide who can tailor the tour to meet your own personal interests. I think recommendations probably depend on where they want to go, what their budget is, length of trip, etc. I have traveled a couple of times with Purple Dragon tours who specialize in SE Asia, India, and China. They are adding Bhutan and Nepal in the near future. They have modules that you put together based on where you want to go and several different hotel selections in most places from basic to 5-star luxury. Your party has its own guide and car with driver in most places unless you are in Bangkok where you usually take public transport or one of the ubiquitous metered taxis. I have enjoyed my time with them greatly. I travel solo so it is nice to have my own guide to show me around and they take care of everything including airport transfers.

Maryann Haggerty: Yes, good ideas for boomers.
Asia is still cheap enough that it probably won't bankrupt you to go with the private guide.
I think you have hit on a major question, though. When you travel, one of the first decisions you'll make is whether you want to be with a group. If you decide you don't want to go it completely alone, you'll then start to balance how independent you need/want to be.

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Washington, D.C.: My most memorable July 4 was actually coming to Washington! I was 14, it was the first time I'd been to the east coast, and there were more fireworks than I'd ever seen in my life - including one that made a smiley-face. Plus I got to see James Galway live, a thrill at the time.

Then 10 years later I moved here, and in spite of the heat and humidity and crowds, I still love the fireworks here. DC puts on a good show.

Scott Vogel: I'm with you. I'm never happier living here than on the Fourth.

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Texas: I am traveling this weekend with my husband and one year old. The plan is to check the car seat with our luggage since we didn't buy a seat for our son and expect there not to be empty seats since it's a holiday weekend. We are planning to gate check the stroller. It's a jogging stroller, but folds up quite flat, the wheels come off and we have a travel bag for it. Has anyone traveled with a jogging-type stroller and had any issues? We are traveling on larger planes for both legs and plan to print out the verbiage from the AA website that states they will take it, but just wanted to hear others' experiences. Thanks!

Christina Talcott: Chatters, can you help?

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Falls Church, Va.: I purchased airline tickets for a trip in August. I had to pay in advance to reserve the seats and if I cancel I'll be subject to cancellation charge. Why can airlines change the terms of their service by charging for checked bags or imposing a fuel surcharge but I can't change things on my end of the deal?

Carol Sottili: Because they own the planes and there is no passenger bill of rights. And they cover themselves with their "contracts of carriage," which is legal language attached to every ticket that explains their obligations (or lack of obligations, depending on how you look at it).

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Best 4th ever - in Denmark: Did you know that Denmark (at least in the early 80s) has a huge July 4th celebration? It's held in a seaside town, and it is MOBBED by both Danes and Americans. The year I was living in Denmark I went all by myself, taking a train that was full of Americans and Danes out for a good time.

It was a huge patriotic rally with songs (performers on stage and the crowd having fun too) and talks and even George Bush (Sr.) arriving in a helicopter. They handed out free American or Danish flags to wave and the long afternoon ended with terrific fireworks.

I've never felt so glad to be an American.

Scott Vogel: Hmm, given the change in political winds, anyone know if such celebrations still go on?

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Germantown, MD: I'm traveling to India in August (during the middle of the summer monsoon season) and I'm looking for something that will keep me dry but not be so stiflingly hot that I won't want to wear it. Any suggestions for summer raincoats or foul-weather gear?

Abigail Bain-Lance: North Face sells high-end waterproof, breathable jackets in different styles. They are really light weight, so great for the kind of on the go travel you'll probably do in India. You can filter your search on their website (www.thenorthface.com) by 'waterproof' and 'HyVent'(their breathable material) to browse about seven different styles.

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Moon Palace Cancun: In response to the poser asking about the Palace resorts. My husband and I stayed at the Moon Palace in November of last year. We both loved it but it is not for everyone. It is a very large resort but we actually liked that. We enjoyed having to walk a bit. I also went in with somewhat moderate expectations. I didn't expect the best food in the world. The food was good not great but good. The pools and the grounds were lovely. Our room was great. Again though we didn't expect perfection at all and went in with an attitude that we were just going to have a good time. Also it is not right downtown so if you want to be in the action I wouldn't stay there. They asked if it was a special occasion and it was our anniversary so they put a small cake in our room with a bottle of champagne. I know they do this for all anniversaries but it was nice. My only thing is that I would not want to be there when it was really busy. Anyway, my advice would be to do your research and really decide what you are looking for.

Carol Sottili: My feelings exactly.

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Arlington, VA: I don't need the prize either, but my most memorable July 4th was when I was 16 and spending the summer in Israel on a youth group trip. We lived on a kibbutz for 3 weeks, and they made a big "Happy Birthday U.S.A." cake for us and helped us celebrate the 4th.

To the visitors asking about the concert dress rehearsal on the 3rd, it's a great time to go. When I lived in Boston, I went every year to the "dress," instead of joining the 400,000 or so people on the Esplanade, but even the 3rd got so popular that the oval in front of the Hatch Shell is now nearly full.

Scott Vogel: Thanks!

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Burke, Va.: Good Afternoon!!! We are leaving for a short trip to Memphis, TN over the July 4th weekend. Besides visiting Graceland and eating all the famous bar-b-que do you have any suggestions for things to do and see.

Thanks.

washingtonpost.com: Also interesting to see in Memphis: the National Civil Rights museum housed in the motel where Martin Luther King Jr. was assassinated. - Elizabeth

Maryann Haggerty: Don't miss Beale Street. Sure, it's touristy (mostly local-ish tourists)but it's loads of fun. There are slightly-less-touristy bars/restaurants right off Beale, too. If you pick up local newspaper or freebie papers, you'll also find plenty of music places away from Beale. Consider a cocktail at the Peabody Hotel, because the ducks that march through the lobby really ARE darling.
If you like casinos, you're a short drive from Tunica, but why bother?

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Charlotte: July 4, 1976. It POURED rain all day long. No picnic, no fireworks, although we did watch the tall ships on TV. We ended up at the movies, Murder by Death, if I remember correctly. For the great hype, it was a real letdown. Oh well, at least no drought!

Scott Vogel: Geez, haven't thought about that movie in a looong time.

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For Brother and wife flying out of BWI: If you're not dropping them off at BWI tell them to use the longer term parking. There are shuttles to take them to the terminal and it's much less expensive than the daily lot.

Maryann Haggerty: Much, much less expensive.

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Rockville: My most memorable 4th of July was two years ago. I was with some friends vacationing in Greece and little bummed that we were missing the fireworks back in the states but to our suprise the bartender delivered our drinks with sparklers. He must of overheard or it was obvious we were Americans cause no one else at the bar received sparklers, lol.

Scott Vogel: Vacationing in Greece and still missing Fourth of July fireworks? No, I get it.

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MD: My most interesting Fourth of July was spent with my relatives in England. We had a cookout with hamburgers as my relatives make them (with chicken noodle soup mix mixed in?), and grilled fish from a pond owned by a local duke (or perhaps a lord?). The grill started out in the carport, then was moved out, because my relatives were a little picky and upper class, and didn't like the smell of the smoke. We ate these burgers with potato salad - made of plain sliced potatoes covered with salad cream (a mayonnaise based condiment). My relatives had some firecrackers left over from the last Guy Fawkes day, but I don't think we ever did set them off. I enjoyed spending time with my relatives, but in some ways, celebrating the Fourth in "almost, but not quite right" circumstances seemed stranger than not celebrating it at all!

Scott Vogel: Still bitter about the Revolution, maybe?

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Bay Area, California: On July 4, 1988, we were travelling from Denmark to London. The day before, the USS Vincennes had shot down Iran Air flight 655. On the ferry from Grena as we made our way towards Copenhagen, we could tell from the headlines that the US had done something bad, but we didn't feel comfortable asking our fellow passengers to translate. Of course, once we got to London we learned the full story.

Scott Vogel: Man, these responses couldn't be more various... Thanks.

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Gaithersburg, Md.: I have a situation with United. Recently, they cancelled service out of FLL and PBI. I have a return ticket from FLL to IAD around Christmas. They've refused to accommodate me on another airline, and are only offering to let me fly out of MIA. Since my family lives in West Palm, a round trip to Miami is about 3 hours for them. United sold me a service from FLL to IAD, and I want them to honor it. I've talked to their call center in India 5 times now, which has been hopeless. Any ideas as to how to make United honor their sale?

Carol Sottili: United's "contract of carriage" seems to indicate it will either put you on another carrier or refund your money in this situation, although it includes this qualifying language: "at United's discretion." I'd probably go to the airport and talk to someone in person.

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For the Croatia bound traveler...: Do not skip Dubrovnik! I spent 2 weeks traveling the Adriatic last summer and Dubrovnik was my favorite destination of all. It's beautiful and perfectly rebuilt. It is hard to imagine that most of the old town was destroyed in the '90s. Today there's hardly any indication of the massive conflict the country faced. There are great pizza places, cafes and shops to be found all over old town, not to mention a stunning harbour surrounded by beautiful mountains. Go, go, go!

Abigail Bain-Lance: Thanks for sharing your enthusiasm for Dubrovnik! I hope to get there next time. Another thought since the last entry: you might want to consider traveling to Croatia by ferry from Italy, either directly to Dubrovnik or into Pula in the north. You could then make your way south along the coast and arrive in beautiful Dubrovnik. Has anyone traveled this path?

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Baltimore MD: Re the question about parking at BWI: I would skip the Daily Lot and park at either of the Airport FastPark lots, which are privately operated. Much less expensive and they usually offer an Internet coupon. (Don't have the web address, but the name is definitely Airport FastPark.) I have used them many times and their shuttle buses are prompt, the drivers courteous and helpful. Just be sure to hang on to the ticket they give you that say what row and space number your car is in.

On another note, what must I absolutely see in Portland, Oregon other than Powell's Books, the Japanese Garden and the Saturday flea market? Thanks.

Maryann Haggerty: More on BWI parking.
Depending on time of year in Portland, the Rose Garden, too.
Also search out restaurants serving locavore Pacific Northwest food. They do it REALLY well there. And if you're a bicyclist, there's a great biking infrastructure.

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Fourth of July in the Middle of Nowhere Texas: When I was a kid, I spent every Fourth of July attending a family reunion...for a family that wasn't mine. But it was a grand occasion, with a hoedown, a massive bingo contest, relay races, fireworks, and basically a great time that made my actual family reunions of ancient people discussing genealogy seem downright lame.

The real treat, however, was the talent show. Every year a number of acts would perform and every year the kids of the main family would win. In 1989, my dad and I performed a killer routine: Chantilly Lace...in drag. My not small father wearing a Double E bra stuffed with towels, a hot pink top, and flowered capri pants. Me at 8 dressed like a boy.

We came in second, which was the highest honor a non-family member had ever received, but all the next day people came to whisper that we should have been first. Nepotism, that patriotic American value, learned at an early age!

Scott Vogel: I THINK I can picture it.

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Arlington, VA: Not sure if you'll be able to help with this, but I'm wrestling with a travel dilemma. We are planning a big trip -- not sure where yet, but probably New Zealand and/or South Pacific islands. We had wanted to go in February 2009, but I'm starting to get nervous about the way airlines are going out of business, canceling flights, adding fuel surcharges, etc. I'm wondering if it would be better for us to go in November 2008 instead. We wouldn't have as much time to save up money and days off work, but I wonder if it would be a little safer in terms of price increases and airline woes. Do any of you have a crystal ball that could help us make a decision?

Christina Talcott: I'm afraid all I have is a feeling: stick to national airlines. For Australia, that would be Qantas. Of course, if you're spending that much money, that far out, I would stronly recommend buying travel insurance that would cover the cost of the flight in the event that anything happens in the interim. You can go to quotewright.com for insurance; just be sure you read all the fine print about the terms. Anyone have other advice for Arlington?

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Dining at BWI: Beware that if you are not flying out of the Southwest terminal, the restaurants close early at BWI. We flew on the last BWI-BOS flight of the evening (on Delta) and were lucky to get a sandwich at Potbelly right before they closed. Nothing else in the terminal was open (at 7:00 pm)!

Scott Vogel: Thanks for the tip!

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Washington, DC: My best 4th of July memory was right here in DC in the early 90s -- a friend had a fellowship on a Senate committee, and we totally didn't know the get-out-of-the-way-of-the-members protocol, so we got there early, and snagged a front row center balcony spot for the concert and the fireworks. It was so great, not only for the fantastic view and primo location, but because everyone was so un-ironic about pledging allegiance and singing the anthem and all. I'm not that rah rah patriotic, but it does one's heart good to see our public servants showing the flag. Spoiled me for going on the Mall with the masses though.

Scott Vogel: Definitely a day to ditch the irony.

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Havre de Grace, MD: I wanted to pass on a tip I learned on a recent layover from heck in Denver (2 hours turned into 8, we considered renting a car and droving to the Coors brewery). If you send a text message with your flight number to Google, you will get a return text message with the current status. That is, send something like UA525 to the number 466453 (yes, just that number, no area code or anything) and it will return the info from flightstat.com. And it was often updated faster than the boards in the airport.

Christina Talcott: Wow, that's really good to know. Thanks, Havre de Grace!

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Charles Town, W.V.:

We are taking a spring trip the first week in March to St. Lucia for a friend's wedding. Airfares right now are running between $600 and $700. Should we wait to purchase tickets or is this an average price?

Thanks.

Carol Sottili: They can go as low as $475, but those sales aren't all that common any longer. I'd probably track it for a while, since it's so far off, and then be prepared to buy quickly if the price drops. Orbitz has a new feature called price assurance that promises to refund your money if fares go down - take a look at that at www.orbitz.com.

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Franconia, VA: I was in Calgary for their Canada Day celebration, which included a fireworks display set to music by Canadian arists.

So, as the first rockets made their way into the air, the amps boomed out "I got my first real six-string, Bought it at the five-and-dime...."

Never made me feel prouder to be an American. We have Sousa!

Scott Vogel: ahahaha -- I think I suddenly appreciate John Philip more too!

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Best 4th of July: I spent a 4th of July on a high school sister city exchange where our hosts tried to put together a 4th for their American guests. The hamburgers, baked potatoes and other American foods at the picnic failed miserably and the firework display brought new meaning to "low-key," but the thought meant a lot. The Americans on the exchange were happy to be together as we attempted to explain why in the world the entire USA seemed to grill on the 4th and other customs to our hosts. They never got it, but I'll never forget that slightly off and surreal, but very memorable 4th.

Scott Vogel: This sounds eerily similar to an earlier post...

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washingtonpost.com: Italy to Croatia by Ferry (find-croatia.com)

Christina Talcott: Here's info for getting to Croatia from Italy that Abigail dug up.

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Los Angeles, CA: Don't need the prize, but just wanted to submit my 4th memory.

Went to NYC for the Macy's fireworks on the Hudson in 2000 -- the fireworks were absolutely spectacular, I think it was the first time they used those smiley face fireworks.

Getting home, however, was a different story, as the subways were horribly crowded and of course, the A/C was broken. We stuffed in like sardines and everyone was miserable, especially when... (how to put it delicately) some "lovely" ladies from the Bronx started to complain in colorful expletives and shoving ensued. It took a full two hours to get home, but thankfully, the ladies from the Bronx exited after half an hour, then everyone on the train applauded.

Scott Vogel: You gotta love New York on the Fourth. Fireworks everywhere you look.

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Fourth of July, 1976: I remember being 9 years old on the occasion of our country's bicentennial. My parents hosted a huge barbeque and the neighbors brought so many fireworks that they stayed up all night shooting bottle rockets out of metal pipes ... don't think that would be possible today! The Freedom Train was criss-crossing the nation bringing exhibits from the Smithsonian to those of us out in Nowhere, Midwest... big stuff for kids who lived in small towns!

Scott Vogel: Wow, the Freedom Train. Something else I'd forgotten about.

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All Age Tour Company: Suggestion for the couple looking for good tour companies but don't want to be stuck with a bunch of "old" people. Try Intrepid Travel (it's an Australian company but cater to people world-wide who are intrested in off the beaten track group tours w/ a lot of individual flexibility). I just got back from a two week trip to Turkey with them and it was excellent. Max 12 in a group and attracts people of all ages. My group had one 20-something, four 30-something, three 40-somethings and two 60+ couples. It was a great experience and great group dynamic.

Maryann Haggerty: Thanks for the idea.
A friend of mine who has done some very interesting adventure tour things recommends asking the tour company up front the usual age range and the amount of physical effort required. And don't settle for "we take all ages." You really want to know.
On a sailing trip I took through Australia's Whitsunday Islands, this came in handy--although the key there seemed to be to pay enough so that the up-all-night backpackers couldn't afford the boat... I mean, I LOVED staying up all when I was young enough to be able to get up and snorkel the next morning on two hours of sleep. But I can't anymore, so I guess I have to pay extra now.

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Washington, DC: My boyfriend and I are about to book a cruise (NCL Baltimore to Bermuda) for mid-August. I've never been on a cruise before, but couldn't beat the cost-effectiveness (not to mention the convenience factor of not having to fly). I'm not really sure what to expect re cruising. Any tips? Any must-see's in Bermuda? We'll be there for 3 days. Also, what can we expect as far as costs on the boat? Thanks so much! Love the chats!

Scott Vogel: Mid-August -- that would be the Norwegian Majesty, right? Just took a cruise with them earlier this year and I have to say, I quite enjoyed it. The Majesty is one of the older ships out there, and for that reason provides a far more intimate experience than most cruise ships these days. Be prepared to spend more on the boat, especially for things like alcoholic drinks and the specialty restaurants. But there are deals to be had on drinks, as long as you skip the paper umbrella-souvenir cup kind.

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Memorable 4th: I have traveled all around the world for both work and pleasure (6+ international trips/year), but my most memorable 4th of July was right here in DC. I was a new intern and went to the mall for the fireworks. Coming from the midwest, I was thrilled to be in the center of power (hah!) working on important things for the country. It was naive, but I felt pretty proud that day. I think it is a feeling many share when first coming to Washington as a young worker.

Scott Vogel: Yeah, not to mention a big reason why some of us stay.

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Arlington, VA: The summer I moved to the DC area (2000), I spent the 4th on the Mall. It was -hot-, so I spent most of the day in the Natural History museum. (That was the year they had the Viking exhibit)

What was most memorable about the day was the Metro ride home. People packed like sardines, bouncing balls in the air to each other, and the whole car singing. I've never seen people that happy about being crammed into the Metro trains before!

Scott Vogel: Man, is the DC tourism office reading this chat?

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Washington, DC: I have a trip to South Africa coming up and am having some second thoughts based on what's happening in Zimbabwe and the violence against those refugees, and others, in South Africa. I do understand that the State Department isn't saying not to go, but my question is whether I should put up more money than I have ever spent on a vacation to go to an area that may be in trouble by the time I go. I'm not concerned so much about safety but whether I should hold off and try another time so I can have fun, rather than worry, on my vacation. Any thoughts?

Abigail Bain-Lance: I have recently returned from a year in South Africa, a complicated, beautiful, and compelling country that is well worth a visit at any time. In terms of personal safety, I would venture to guess that, aside from talking to locals about their experiences, you will be unaffected by the most recent events. It is important to remember that the country is a vast place, and most of the serious violence is taking place in localized pockets. And, for better or worse, the areas you will likely spend most of your time as a tourist will be relatively untouched by the current political tensions. That said, a vacation is meant to be a time to relax and enjoy, and you'll need to weigh whether you'll be able to do so. If you pass it up this time around, I hope you're able to visit South Africa in the future!

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4th in Denmark: Hey, there were lots of anti-Reagan demonstrations in Denmark that year, but the celebration still went on.

I just checked, and they still do it. Google July 4th Denmark for details.

Scott Vogel: There you are...

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For College Park, Md.:: The Rehobus goes to Rehoboth, and there may be something similar for Ocean City. Look into that instead of Greyhound.

I'm not sure you need an international drivers license if you have a valid (European) drivers' license. And any rental agency will offer insurance.

Carol Sottili: Thanks. Go to www.rehobus.com. My guess is that he's too young to rent a car.

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Fourth of July in England: I remember celebrating the Fourth of July one year in London, England on a USO tour while I was stationed in Germany with the US Army. In a nightclub, a British bloke tried to chat me up and asked what it was we were celebrating on the fourth. My answer was, "It's the day we thank God we're not British!"

Scott Vogel: ahahaha -- that's tellin' em.

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Re: Chichen Itza: For the chatter thinking about going to Chichen Itza -- it is a really amazing place, and I definitely recommend going, but also definitely take a taxi or a private guide. I took a tour there, and not only did we have stay longer than I really wanted to, the van stopped twice on the way back at tourist traps that we had no interest in -- but we were indeed trapped there. Also, I went in December, and it was broiling hot at Chichen Itza -- there is almost no shade. It's probably worse in August. Not a reason to miss it, but you'll want sunscreen, a hat, maybe a fan, and plenty of water.

Carol Sottili: Thanks!

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sweet sixteen and never been kissed: and the first time I was was on July 4th, in a little town in New England, watching fireworks from lakeside in my hometown. I still see the fireworks, but they are not as sweet as that time.

Maryann Haggerty: Fireworks during the fireworks!

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4th memory: Most memorable 4th: I was seven years old, and my dad was supposed to take me to meet my mom at the marina for fireworks. Well, as fathers are wont to do, he retired to the bathroom after dinner with a newspaper and despite my telling him it was getting dark, etc.... he stayed in there, -occupied- too long and we missed the fireworks. I was so sad that my dad's bathroom habits ruined my holiday- but teasing him about it every year since has been AWESOME.

Scott Vogel: Wow, I can't help wondering what he had for dinner.

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For Croatia Bound: I went to Croatia about a year and a half ago and we rented a car. We flew into Zagreb, did that for a few days, drove to Split, parked there and did the city itself, and two side trips to Hvar and Brac. After that, we drove down to Dubrovnik and parked there, and then spent a few days touring the city, and did a day trip to Montenegro. The we drove back to Zagreb, stopping for a day/night at Plitvice. Driving was SO easy, they have a huge highway between Zagreb and (at least when I was there) Split, but it's probably mostly to Dubrovnik by now. It's a tollroad but it's fast, well maintained and with lots of rest stops. Just be prepared - most cars are stick! Have a great time - it's so beautiful and I can't wait to go back.

Abigail Bain-Lance: Thanks so much for sharing your experience. Yes, driving around was so easy, and I'm glad you've emphasized that.

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Xcaret and Xel-Ha: Do not put on sunscreen before you go to either of these parks. They require "ecological" sunscreen that won't cloud the waters. You can buy it there. If you put on regular sunscreen at your hotel, you'll have to wash it off when you get to the park.

Carol Sottili: Good tip. But how do they know what type of sunscreen everyone has on? Do they depend on honesty?

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Arlington, VA: Memorable 4th of July: My family gravitates to a tiny village on Lake Michigan in the summer. The last time I was there my mother and I decided to go up the local sand dune to catch the fireworks that are shot off from the local river. After dark is a no-no for the dune, but we didn't care- along with about 2 dozen other people and the local police. While we knew the view would be good and we would also get a night view of a nearby town, we hadn't counted on being able to see about a half-dozen other firework shows around the area. As we were the closest to the lakeshore, ours was last. So we watched all of the other small town shows get bigger as they neared and the grand finale was the local show.

Scott Vogel: "a tiny village on Lake Michigan" -- sounds wonderfully balmy compared to what's in store for us.

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Georgia: If you're into snorkeling, then definitely do not miss Xel-Ha!

Carol Sottili: Another Cancun tip....

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Falls Church, VA: I've just broken up with my boyfriend. Where can I get away for the weekend where I won't stand out if I'm alone? I like history and art museums.

Thanks

Christina Talcott: I'm sorry about your breakup! When I've been in that situation, I've felt better getting lost in a city somewhere, so I'll offer my thoughts but open it up to the chatters.
If you want a quick getaway, Baltimore's got you covered, Philly's a walkable delight, and New York and Boston are must-sees if you haven't been there. I just flew in from Chicago and have to swoon for a minute about that city. I usually go to see friends but also like spending time exploring alone, whether going on the AIA architecture boat tour, renting a bike to ride along the lake, chilling at the beach or getting lost in the crowds of Michigan Ave. And people there are so friendly that you won't be alone for long if you want a little company.
Ok, end of swoon. Any chatters have other good post-breakup destinations?

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For the beach-headed Irish student: I can't vouch for them, but there are beach buses that go to Dewey and Rehoboth.

http://www.deweybus.com/

http://www.rehobus.com/

Carol Sottili: Another bus to the beach.

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Costa Rica and the 4th: For the traveller to Costa Rica, I went last year and loved it. Do Manuel Antonio if you can. There is also a great resort in the jungle treetops called Gaia which is amazing.

Most memorable fourth:

Leading the National 4th Parade by carrying the lead banner down Constitution with all the other parade participants following.

What an honor!!!

Scott Vogel: Thanks for the tip re CR.

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Glen Allen, VA: For the "first passport stamp" trip -- don't forget September/October are prime hurricane months, so maybe a trip to Montreal or Toronto would be nice.

Maryann Haggerty: Something to take into account, although that doesn't mean parts south are completely verboten in the fall. (You might want to look into travel insurance, tho.)
Do they actually stamp your passport these days if you drive into Canada instead of flying? In that case, you could also fly into Albany (Southwest goes there) and drive up to Niagara Falls, Canadian side.

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Springfield, VA: Best July 4 for me had to be 1997. I had finished my second year of law school and was spending the summer working for a firm in Montgomery, Alabama. As is the case this year, July 4 was a Friday, so I decided to take advantage of the 3-day weekend to drive down to New Orleans since I'd never been there. Heat index on the 4th was 120 degrees, and as a 24-year-old guy I figured the best way to deal with sweat-induced dehydration was, of course, to have a few beers. (They did taste good... don't know how brilliant that was as a remedy for dehydration, though.)

Fireworks over the Mississippi were very nice to watch from Jackson Square, although as a native of the DC area I have to concede that obviously seeing the Capitol and the Washington Monument is more impressive as a backdrop. But DC will never have the post-fireworks entertainment of Bourbon Street to offer. Let's just say that people throwing beads to the ladies is not limited to Mardi Gras.

Maryann Haggerty: And then there are the steamy 4ths...

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Washington, D.C.: I spent a memorable 4th of July in Nome, Alaska about 15 years ago They had the main street closed for all kinds of races for the children. It was great fun to watch. Later that day, we returned to Anchorage. I waited to see if would ever get dark enough for fireworks. As I recall, they finally did fire them off about 2 am.

Scott Vogel: Thanks. I've always wondered what places in the northern latitudes do.

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Croatia This Summer: I have traveled from Vienna to Dubrovnik before--I believe it was on Tyrolean if not Croatian airlines -- so the poster should check all the flight options. They may have to fly through Zagreb anyway, so they might as well check it out.

The coast will be slammed in summer, but Zagreb might be boring when school is out and everyone is at the coast, but then maybe the lack of crowds will be nice.

The bus and ferry systems are both comfortable and convenient, but how to travel depends on where you are going and how long you'll be there.

If they really mean THIS Summer, they better start booking coastal accommodations now!

Abigail Bain-Lance: Thanks for weighing in, especially on the ferry possibilities.

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AA DFW connection: FWIW, I routinely take AA flights through DFW and usually only have 65-75 minutes between flights. Assuming everything is on time, this is enough time for me to hop the tram between terminals, go outside for a cigarette, come back through security, grab a soda and/or some food, eat said food, and make my flight. Yes, I am totally serious. I walk fast and eat fase, but the tram is quick and easy.

That all said, I would not volunteer for a 40 minute connection, but I think it can be done if your arrival flight is on time. If the trip is booked, I'd risk it before paying the fees to rebook. Plus, if you happen to be catching the 8:40pm from DFW to BWI I've never seen it leave before 9:00.

Maryann Haggerty: Some advice from a DFW veteran, for the earlier chatter wondering about a 40 minute connection

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Arlington, VA: Best 4th of July so far -- watching the fireworks from the White House lawn in the mid-1990s. My brother was working for the Clinton administration at the time. President Clinton made a brief appearance to thank everyone for their hard work and to wish them a happy 4th, they piped in the concert and fireworks music, and everyone got free -- okay, taxpayer-paid -- Dove bars and soda.

Best 4th is coming up in a few days -- Yankees vs. Red Sox at Yankee Stadium. Life-long Red Sox fan here who has only seen the Sox-Yankees at Fenway. Now I'll get to see it in the House That Ruth Built in its final year before they move into the House That Steinbrenner Built.

Scott Vogel: Awesome experiences, both past and future!

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Arlington, VA: My favorite 4th as a kid was '76. There was the re-enactment of the Pony Express (small town, midwest) and all my relatives dressed up in colonial garb and we had a huge party in the back yard. Lots of food, fireworks, etc. The best part was each of the grandkids wore these hideous flag outfits my grandma made for us out of towel sets. You can imagine how pained my teenage cousins were. I was only 7 - so I thought they were "cool."

Scott Vogel: I love this one. I see that none of us who lived through '76 will ever forget it.

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Re: Portland: Portland has a new aerial tram that's supposed to be really cool. Sorry, can't find a web site for it on such short notice, but here's the Wikipedia page:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portland_Aerial_Tram

Maryann Haggerty: Here's the actual Web site:
http://www.portlandtram.org/
I also liked Portland's street cars. And if you're an urban planning/public trasnit enthusiast, the entire metropolitan area is an interesting case study in limits on urban growth/sprawl. (It's basically a mirror image of Houston that way.)

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Dallas, TX: most memorable July 4th: in small-town CA at age 15, on my 3rd day ever in USA as exchange student from UK. Watched parade go by and thought "wow, people really are proud of and celebrate this country!" -- had never experienced anything like it in UK. Now 30+ years later and proud US citizen myself, I wave the stars and stripes with my neighbors on the 4th (and no, even before I became citizen, I never got resentful about the fact that this was once "our" real estate).

Scott Vogel: That's the spirit.

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Danish July 4th: The Danish celebration still goes on. We have friends who work for the embassy and it is a big deal for some of the Danes. The Danes aren't as opposed to US policy as some other European countries.

Scott Vogel: Is it too late to get a flight on SAS?

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In that case, you could also fly into Albany (Southwest goes there) and drive up to Niagara Falls, Canadian side. : Wouldn't Buffalo (also SWA) be closer?

Maryann Haggerty: Yeah, I guess it would be. (I think I combined Albany with both Vermont and Niagara, so that made sense to me!!!) Thanks.

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Washington, D.C.: I took the Megabus to NYC last week and overall had a fine experience (especially on the midnight bus back!). I was happy to be saving $167 over taking Amtrak. However, the bus ride to NYC arrived at Penn Station an hour and a half late. While I understand that traffic is traffic and the bus was moving as fast as they could, I have to wonder why they didn't allot more time in their schedule for a bus departing DC at 12:15 pm.

So my question: have you found that bus companies use the exact same time schedules regardless of departure, leading to wildly inaccurate actual arrivals?

Christina Talcott: Sorry about the Megabus delay. I think bus companies - like restaurants and plays - need a little time to shake out the kinks; hopefully Megabus will work out its schedule soon. It's been my experience that bus companies adjust their schedules according to traffic and aren't usually wildly off-schedule, but that's taking into account a lot of years of taking short trips on Greyhound. Of course, it could be that traffic's getting worse lately...

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Bethesda Mom: Greetings Travel Gurus:

I was interested in the info in CoGO this weekend that you can put a "hold" on an airfare for 24 hours. My question is whether this can be done online, or if you must make the initial reservation over the phone, which almost always costs more. Can you reserve over the phone to keep your options open but then confirm online to save money? I've made many online reservations and each time I've had to enter my credit card info and was immediately charged.

Thanks!

Carol Sottili: Depends on the airline. I routinely put tickets on hold on American Airlines via its Web site, but don't believe you can do that for most others.

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Broken-Up Trips: Go to the National Gallery of Art. See the Afghanistan exhibit for history, and see the On The Beach Misrach exhibit.

Then say "hi" to the cute guy who's subtly checking you out while he's admiring the exhibits.

Christina Talcott: Lovely! Thanks!

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boomer travel: Look into Road Scholar--a younger (but not that much younger--it's boomer pricing) trips put together by the Elderhostel folks. Interesting destinations, a lot of sightseeing, a little learning, and curious, engaged participants.

Maryann Haggerty: Hmmm. I'm not sure a subsidiary of ElderHostel fit what the chatter was looking for...

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Scared of BWI Update: Dear Travel Crew, I wrote in several weeks ago worried about parking and flying out of BWI early in the morning. Lo and behold, this Virginia gal did not even get lost along the way that morning! I used Airport Fastpark because it didn't involve leaving the regular route to BWI long-term parking and only added a few cents with their internet coupon. Everything worked out great on both ends of the trip (early departure, late arrival) and my only complaint would be that the Airport Fastpark website doesn't mention that its red lot is now just for the frequent parkers. But the blue lot was around the corner and the lady was cheerful enough in directing me to it. Thanks for all the tips and reassurance!

Christina Talcott: Happy to help! Glad it went well!

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NYC hotels: Going to NYC in mid October to see a few Broadway shows.

Do you have any recommendations for hotels with scenic views of Central Park, traditionally decorated, 4-5 stars?

Thanks!

Abigail Bain-Lance: I've heard the Essex House is top notch, at www.jumeirahessexhouse.com.

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Central VA: I bought a North Face jacket for our European River Cruise (best way to see the Europe ... can't wait to be able to go again), and it was worth every penny I spent. It was lightweight, and rain resistant. I could easily layer underneath.

Best 4th of July (or funniest at least) ... my brother and sister-in-law and my husband and I took our children to watch fireworks at Penn State. It was an extremely dry year. One of the fireworks went awry and started a grass fire ... the kids thought it was part of the entertainment (oh to be so young again). Thank goodness it was easily and quickly extinguished but they loved getting the 'bits and pieces' of this firework coming down on our cars.

Abigail Bain-Lance: Super!

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Washington DC : A July 4th story that shows how much times have changed: This is not a fun tale, but it is educational. I remember sometime in the early 70s coming to DC for the fireworks when I lived in Baltimore. I got down here with friends just fine and, once we located the mall, we set off looking for something to eat. And..everything was closed. I mean every restaurant, every drug store, every retail establishment of any kind. I think we finally found a hot dog street vendor, but I can't recall precisely. What I remember was trudging around very hot, very thirsty and ultimately very hungry.

My point is, at one time--not all that long time--July 4th was observed much more reflectively. Parades and fireworks, yes. 4th of July sales, no.

Scott Vogel: Maybe we should go back to those days.

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Kingstowne, VA: Most memorable 4th....hands down, 1994. I was a student at UVA and every year a group of us got together at a friend's house in Lake Barcroft because his family had a backyard pool. We'd have a barbecue, then ride the Metro downtown to the Capitol, go to the fireworks, then walk to Eastern Market to get onto the Orange Line home ahead of all the crowds at Capitol South.

So in 1994 instead of using the pool we all watched the USA and Brazil in the World Cup and said, "Well, this is the last time soccer will get any attention in the USA." (Glad we were wrong.) Then, as usual, we headed downtown....but the trip was made unique because we had a friend up from Southside Virginia who lived in a REALLY small town with no traffic lights. She was astonished to visit Springfield Mall with two stories, and she had never ridden on the subway. Thus, she found the Metro ride to the fireworks very exciting. All was well.....and then on the ride home, on a jam-packed Orange Line train so crowded that your face is jammed into your neighbor's cleavage, the train ahead of us broke down. When we were under the Potomac. For an hour and a half. Two guys at the other end of the car got in a fistfight (still don't know how they found room to swing) while we were stuck. Someone called the train operator about the fight and there was nothing he could do. Finally the train limped into Rosslyn, the two fighters got shoved out the door, and we then moved on.

Since then, I have never again been to the July 4 fireworks downtown, and as far as I know my friend from Southside (with whom I lost touch years ago after she got married) has never again voluntarily used a subway system.

Scott Vogel: More fireworks!

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Scott Vogel: All right -- thanks for the whirlwind trip down 4th of July memory lane. You guys are awesome, as usual. I think I'll have to pick the young girl whose dad dressed in drag for that other family's reunion she regularly attended. Please e-mail me at vogelsi@washpost.com to claim your prize. And a very happy, safe and memorable Fourth to all of our chatters.

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