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Amy Argetsinger and Roxanne Roberts
Washington Post Staff Writers
Wednesday, August 20, 2008; 12:00 PM

Reliable Source columnists Amy Argetsinger and Roxanne Roberts were online Wednesday, Aug. 20, at Noon ET to discuss your favorite gossip, what you think about their recent columns or who you want to see them writing about in future ones.

In today's Reliable Source: Cindy McCain's long-lost half-sister is tired of hearing Cindy described as an only child. Flavor Flav waits for a table at National Harbor. Chris Cooley's wife (hearts) the Backstreet Boys. Nicole Richie hangs out in Dupont Circle. Madeleine Albright does her jury duty.

Yesterday: Dick Cheney and the Jonas Brothers join forces. Jill Carroll changes careers. Eddie Vedder cheers D.C. rocker chicks. And who knew "Feels Like the First Time" was about voting?

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A transcript follows.

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Amy Argetsinger: Good morning everyone! Do you know how out of touch I was while the Reliable Source was on vacation? I didn't even know until yesterday that Jennifer Aniston and John Mayer broke up. I did, however, exit my cone of silence and drive to the nearest television set the week before last to watch John Edwards' bizarro preening apology/explanation/confession of narcissism and adultery on Nightline. Good times. So what else has been going on? You tell us.

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Alexandra, Va.: Do you guys just happen to be walking down the street and notice Nicole Richie at a Starbucks, or does the store call you up and start bragging that they are serving her?

Roxanne Roberts: We're EVERYWHERE! Seriously, you lovely folks call when you THINK you've seen a celebrity (or someone who looks a lot like one) and then we call to verify if, in fact, that person was in town and at the place. Sometimes, the store employees don't recognize a star, but we'll check with agents and managers to see if the sighting is accurate.

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Eastern Market, Washington, D.C.: It has been a tough few weeks as you have been gone. What was heavier on you, the passing of Isaac Hayes, Bernie Mac, or Jerry Wexler?

Amy Argetsinger: Definitely Bernie Mac. The guy was in his prime, you know? And just a couple weeks after going blue at an Obama fundraiser, which was brilliant.

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9:30 Club: I have always been town and unable to decide where I fall on this. Is Eddie Vedder really hot or not? How did he look?

Amy Argetsinger: I remember thinking he was incredibly hot the first time Pearl Jam performed on Saturday Night Live in early 1992, but never finding him very appealing afterwards. Then again, I've never been a big fan of Pearl Jam. They only ever had one song I really liked -- "Corduroy" -- and all my other favorite Pearl Jam songs turned out to be Stone Temple Pilots. Sadly our spies at the 930 Club did not answer the eternal "hot or not?" question, nor did they address whether he was taller or shorter than one expects.

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Washington: Where did you guys go on vacation? I admit it -- I live vicariously through you.

Amy Argetsinger: I was up on Seneca Lake, in western New York state.

Roxanne Roberts: Puttering around the house (staycation, baby, cleaning bookshelves, and reading while my teenage son was at summer law camp in LA. Then we jumped in the car for a road trip to Gettysburg (spent a day on the battlefield), and visited friends in Pennsylvania and New York. Lots of driving and listening to country western, which I've decided is the perfect road music.

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Falls Church, Va.: Chris Cooley wearing his short short shorts at the Backstreet Boys show?

Amy Argetsinger: Since our witness did not mention short shorts, I have to assume he did not.

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Gaithersburg, Md.: Did you guys see Ernest Borgnine's recent talk show appearance on national television? Good for him! He's a hero to billions of men the world over.

Amy Argetsinger: This is one of those things that happened while I was off the grid. I only know from a fleeting glimpse at some Facebook status updates that Ernest Borgnine apparently did something very amusing while I was on vacation, but I know not what. Someone want to fill us in?

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Washington, D.C.: Amy, I need your help. Robert Downey, Jr is my new fave -- I loved Tropic Thunder (both times.) So I moved Charlie Bartlett up in my Netflix queue, but I am disappointed that Chaplin is not available. I suppose I could just order it from Amazon, but perhaps you might mention it here in your chat? And then someone would send you a copy? And you could lend the DVD to me? Thanks, and have fun in Denver.

Amy Argetsinger: That's so weird that "Chaplin" is not available in Netflix. You know what else seems not to be available on DVD -- at least since last I checked? "Last Days of Disco," which I'd really like to see again. I think it's important we bring these grave omissions to the public's attention. Meanwhile, I will pray to the gods of Menudo and Jello that you and I can personally find some relief in these matters.

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National Harbor?: Any idea why Flava was in town? Looking for new contestants for his VH1 show? I, for one, will not watch until they have Chuck D or Professor Griff guest stars.

Amy Argetsinger: We were unable to find an easy answer as to why Flav was here, besides having a hunger for the finest lobster and cognac offerings of Prince George's County. Anyone else know?

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$46.7 million: Is it really worth it -- to be married to Phil Collins?

Roxanne Roberts: They were married six years, so at an annual rate of almost $7 million a year....hmmmm. That's more than $500K a month. On a hourly rate, maybe it WAS worth it.

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the Eddie Question: hot in a very sough around the edges sort of way. And quite honestly, with that voice, who really cares what he looks like.

Amy Argetsinger: Okay, thanks for voting.

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Washington, D.C.: Here are two interesting questions: With the end of the Bush presidency coming in January, 2009, what official from the Bush administration is going to make the most money in private life after the Bush presidency, aside from President Bush? Cheney, Rice, Chao, Chertoff, Mukasey, Johann, Gates, who? And, what current administration officials will actually remain in the federal government in an Obama administration?

Amy Argetsinger: Condi Rice will make the most money, because she's a total rock star. I can't imagine any top name folks in the current administration would be in an Obama administration or even necessarily in a McCain administration.

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Staycation: BABY?!?!?! What's up with that?

Roxanne Roberts: Term of affection---not an actual infant. My Siamese cats kinda sound like babies, but no wailing human. Sorry.

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Rockville, Md.: The Jonas Brothers better save their money. The clock ticks fast on teener pop bands, no matter how many records they sell or how many magazine covers they're on. They need to sell some records, do some endorsements, do some dumb movies, get those movies out on DVDs, do those quickie concert tours, get some lucrative overseas endorsements (Japan and South America always work the easiest), don't waste your money, save your money -- and wait for the career reversal in five very quick years. If you don't follow the plan, you're teaching guitar for a much lower salary, selling the house, if you had the foresight to buy one, and filing for bankruptcy. We've seen it happen too many times. Already, for the Jonas Brothers, the 15 Minutes Clock is approaching the 10 Minute mark. Word to the wise.

Amy Argetsinger: Maybe Leif Garrett can give them some pointers.

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Camp in L.A.: Where exactly does one camp in L.A.?

Roxanne Roberts: This camp was at UCLA, sponsored by its law school. Future lawyers or kids who now can out-argue their parents. My kid KNOWS his rights.

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Ha!: I'm assuming that was a lady writing in about Eddie Vedder. This disproves my theory that only men like Pearl Jam. Seriously, I am 30, and every guy I have ever dated has LOVED them... I don't' get it.

Also, saw a person wearing a Coldplay t-shirt the other day, which makes me think someone other than Gwynneth likes them. I mean, I know they're popular, but I've never met anyone who likes them.

Amy Argetsinger: Remember a couple years ago when J. Freedom du Lac wrote that Colplay was music for "medium-level dull people"? That was awesome. A lot of people wrote in to complain, and they were all, like, "I'm not medium-level dull!!!"

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Road Trip Music?: Roxanne -- can you be more specific? Country Western as in Garth Brooks and Rascal Flats, or as in Willie Nelson and Merle Haggard? There is a big difference.

Roxanne Roberts: Local radio, so it was a mix of old and new. Frankly, it was just fun figuring out what each song meant. After one, my son turned to me and said, "Is that song about a guy who gets left for a girl?" "Think so," I said.

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Condi Rice will make the most money, because she's a total rock star: Any chance she'll realize her dream of becoming NLF commissioner?

Amy Argetsinger: Probably not. But that would be wonderful.

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Washington, D.C.: I finally read that Chandra Levy series and had and one thing struck me as odd. Gary Condit now runs Baskin Robbins ice cream parlors, and right before leaving her apartment, Chandra was looking at the Baskin Robbins Web site. Did they have plans to run off together and run ice cream parlors together? Just seemed to be an odd last Web site for her to look at, though nobody had mentioned it. But good job by your colleagues -- a terrific series.

Amy Argetsinger: Truly, there's no such thing as a coincidence. Along with all the other sad, exploitative, tragic stuff going on in that saga, there may have been some butter-pecan pillow talk.

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John Edwards: So have you caught up? As more details come out the more shocked I am he thought he could run for office and not get caught up in all the lies.

What a dirty, dumb bird he is.

Amy Argetsinger: I'm kind of sad there haven't been more stories, more details coming out. I could just read this story all day long and just bath in the schadenfreude and loathing.

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Washington, D.C.: Does respect for Chris Cooley go up or down when learning that he took his wife to a Backstreet Boys concert?

washingtonpost.com: From today's Reliable Source: Chris Cooley taking his wife to the Backstreet Boys show at Wolf Trap on Monday. The Redskins star (yellow shirt, backwards Atlanta Braves cap) gamely fist-bumped a fan, posed for a photo. Seems Christy Cooley is the true BSB groupie -- she stood and sang through the whole show while he spent a lot of time on his cell.

Amy Argetsinger: Oh, it definitely goes up. That's a sign of a solid relationship.

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Love on the rocks: Blame it on the reunion tour -- Donnie Wahlberg is splitting from wife Kim.

Mark, on the other hand -- vavoom.

Amy Argetsinger: Oh, did you also see that Chris Kattan ("Mango" on SNL) separated from his wife after like six weeks of marriage? Her name is Sunshine Tutt, which is an even better fake name than Rielle.

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Chrisina Applegate: Hey Ladies,

So I know you've heard about Christina's decision to have a bilateral mastectomy and I already have heard some commenters (radio, TV) state that she made a bold big move in doing that.

I have a very close friend who was in the same position as Christina was and opted for the bilateral mastectomy, reconstruction, recovery and 3 years later she is in perfect health and says she'd do it again.

I applaud Christina's taking the 'bull (or breast) by the horns' and getting rid of the cancer that tormented her mother for years.

Amy Argetsinger: I feel bad for anyone in that situation, and it's got to be even worse dealing with cancer or some other major illness like that while everyone's watching.

Roxanne Roberts: I also had a very close friend who made the same decision. A lot of it had to do with not wanting to live in fear that the cancer would return to the other breast---her doctor told her there was a good chance that could happen. She's been cancer free for decades, so it was the right choice for her and I hope for Christina.

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Rockville, Md.: Poor Meg Ryan said in a recent interview that she's having trouble dating and having relationships. What a load of crap. A bunch of us could name about 100 people who'd love to go out with her. Doesn't it just seem odd that multi-millionaires with great looks, loads of down time, and huge houses, nice cars, great clothes and a great life complain about meeting people? Give us a break.

Amy Argetsinger: Yes but -- if you're a famous multimillionaire beauty, it's probably hard to find guys you have much in common with; and those that you do are megalomaniacal Hollywood types who want a girlfriend 20 years younger.

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Am I medium-level dull: If I don't really like them, but I like one or two songs? I hope not, but I'm okay with it I guess. I'm not going to pretend I don't like those songs, or take them off my iPod.

Amy Argetsinger: I think you should bring this up with J-Freed, actually. He'll get back to you as soon as he's done replying to all the e-mails from angry Kevin ("the other one") Jonas fans.

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Anonymous: The vacation seems to have mellowed you guys out. Let's get going and get snarky -- this hour is almost over.

Amy Argetsinger: Hey, we're just warming up. I promise, I'll start putting out the mean questions. Next one up.

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Hamilton, Va.: In light of your piece this morning about the Hensley family tree it appears the reason young Cindy Hensley did not have a problem with fooling around with a married John McCain is she learned about it from her daddy.

Amy Argetsinger: There -- does that do it?

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I of the Eddie is Hot comment: Yes, I am a woman. And just to screw up that other woman's theory even more, my younger brother actively loathes Pearl Jam.

Ladies, I forgot to add, it's lovely to have you back. My 12:00 spot has been painfully dull with you being gone.

Amy Argetsinger: Thank you.

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Washington, D.C. : Do y'all think any serious attention should be paid to the suggestion of Caroline Kennedy being Obama's VP choice? Or is Michael Moore smoking something new?

Roxanne Roberts: I'd be shocked. I'm never seen any indication she wants any more of a public life than she has. I think it would be a fascinating choice, but yeah----Michael's dreaming.

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Coldplay: I agree that no band has run out of things to say more quickly than they have (first album was great -- after that, pretty medium dull). But I have to give credit to any band who can get a song with references to Roman cavalry and St. Peter on commercial radio these days.

Amy Argetsinger: Yes, but... what if those references are COMPLETELY nonsensical? Does that count?

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Washington, D.C.: I've seen pictures of Cooley's wife; she's worth suffering through a Backstreet Boys concert.

Amy Argetsinger: Many gentlemen agree on this point.

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Save us some time: So who did the article 'imply' was the killer of Chandra? Seriously, I'd read the whole thing, I love that sort of thing, but things have been busy, yadda yadda yadda. And someone said the conclusion was very compelling...

Amy Argetsinger: A Salvadoran immigrant who was convicted of assaulting a couple other women in the same vicinity of the park where she was found, around the same time she went missing. It's worth reading -- and it's actually a very brisk read. Each of those 11 or 13 parts is shorter than your typical Post story.

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Which is worse: Being high-level dull, or low-level dull?

Amy Argetsinger: High-level dull, definitely.

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Chicago, Ill.: Any John Edwards paternity updates?

Amy Argetsinger: Sadly, no...

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Cindy McCain: I have to express my discomfort with this morning's story on Cindy McCain's half sister. It isn't Cindy's fault if her parents didn't encourage relationships with the half-siblings and if her father didn't leave any money to the sister.

Roxanne Roberts: Fair enough. But I think Cindy has added to the problem by always referring to herself as an only child. She could have said her parents were married to other people before they met, and that she had older half-sisters but never really knew them. Happens all the time, so no shame in that. Obama has been open about his half-siblings, even if he's not close to most of them. I'm guessing there's a lot of history that's not so perfect between Cindy and the other families.

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RE: Jonas Brothers better save their money: I know, I've been thinking this exactly. Why is it that these stars always think their career is going to be different from the trend? It drives me crazy. Not just teen stars, but others, too. MC Hammer had a good gig going, but did he really think those big pants were going to stay hot forever? Apparently he did because he went bankrupt. Jonas brothers, could they even teach guitar? I see them trying out for small parts in movies for years before finally giving up and becoming managers at a mall store. Not that there's anything wrong with that, but it's a big step down.

Amy Argetsinger: Well, I don't know -- for all we know the Jonas Brothers are going the Shaun Cassidy route and quietly investing in shopping malls. True story -- he leveraged his fleeting teen-idol fame into lasting wealth.

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Laurel, Md.: How said about Cindy McCain's sister; and how very stuck up of her to refer to herself as an "only child." It's not her sisters' fault her father started another family. It's sad the father divided and conquered and left the squabbling over money.

Roxanne Roberts: It is sad, but we don't know all the facts. Maybe her father really believed Cindy was the best qualified to take over the business. It seems odd that his will shut out his first family, though.

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Mark Wahlberg: Naive question here -- Is Mark Wahlberg the same as Marky Mark the same as the guy in the New Kids the same as the guy in that porn movie with Heather Graham? I'm so confused...

Amy Argetsinger: Oh, come on -- don't you know this? Yes, Marky Mark is indeed one of the other few who leveraged his fleeting teen-idol career into something longer lasting. He wasn't in NKOTB -- that was his older brother Donnie -- but he fronted a band called Marky Mark and the Funky Bunch (to even type that name fills me with a vague mortification) which existed for about 7 to 10 minutes back in the Arsenio Hall era; then he posted for Calvin Klein ads with Kate Moss; and then he suddenly emerged as as Serious Actor with "Boogie Nights." Last year he was nominated for best supporting actor in "The Departed." (I swear, I haven't been sitting here for years hoping you'd ask me about Mark Wahlberg; it just sounds like that.)

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Wow, the Ice Cream franchise: was weird to read about since I was thinking about convincing my husband to open a Pinkberry franchise. (someone out there can take the idea, they will only talk to you if you have current retail food experience/ownership)

Amy Argetsinger: Like I said, no such thing as coincidence...

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Veep Gossip: Does Bayh have a big family? Sebelius? Who of all those on the short list would give us the most to talk about in the coming weeks? I like Biden when he can control the verbal diarrhea and Sebelius because she just rocks, but Even Bayh puts me to sleep. Maybe he has an outlandish attention-needy child...

Amy Argetsinger: Great news! Evan Bayh has twin sons, who are about 13 and probably cute, though I haven't seen pics. Biden has a couple late-30s sons who are married but hot and a young, sorta-wild daughter in her 20s. Sebelius has two sons, but I'm guessing they're more or less grown -- haven't done the due diligence reporting there yet.

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Olympics: Have you two been enjoying the Olympics or is it just too much? The problem with them in other countries, way ahead of our time, is that you know all the results before you see any of the events. I do, however, love that Bob Costas, he has the best Olympic voice.

Amy Argetsinger: I missed the first 10 days of the Olympics, which were apparently stupendous, but I was off the grid. Just now catching up. I missed almost all of the Phelpsiad (as The New Yorker called it). I did watch Lolo Jones last night and found her to be utterly riveting. Gorgeous. She looks like a human from the future. I'm sorry she lost, but now I hope they find other ways to keep her on TV, possibly on "Gossip Girl."

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Made-up Names in N.C.: On one of our local news stations here in Raleigh, the anchorman will mis-pronounce Rielle as "Rye-Elle" whenever there is an an Edward's update. I'm pretty sure he does it on purpose. I chuckle every time.

Amy Argetsinger: Okay, well you tell me -- how DO you pronounce "Rielle"?

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Law Camp: As a happily practicing attorney, I'm not sure why anyone would pay for that. All you're doing is creating an additional layer of arrogance and entitlement for your kid. He can do what many of the rest of us did -- go deeply into debt paying for law school, while pretending that one day we will defend the defenseless, AND have a family life, not realizing how expensive it is to live in a big city (which we don't have time to take advantage of.)

Roxanne Roberts: Well, I'm doing my best as a mother to bat down the arrogance and entitlement part. And---if I can be serious for a minute---an understanding of the Constitution and how it plays out in everyday life is a great basis for thinking about politics, business, journalism and tons of other fields. I don't know if he'll become a lawyer, but I want him to respect the profession and the good it can do. (Insert 25 cents for lawyer jokes here.)

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Hollywood, Calif..: Cruise control: Many stories in the last few weeks about many problems with Tom Cruise -- continued odd behavior, tabloid behavior problems, bailing from a huge big-budget spy film, continuing troubles with his wayward German Nazi film, Paula Wagner bailing on him at United Artists, no real action or deals out of UA, and more that's not been in the press. People are amazed that he's not listening to the zeitgeist, that he's not taking action to improve his image and his standing, and that he's not altering his continually strange behavior. Look for either a major career rehab, or a major goodbye in terms of status to a longtime box office reliable. Sad story, all around.

Amy Argetsinger: Except that... hasn't he been getting a ton of good buzz for his role in "Tropic Thunder"?

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Marky Mark and the Funky Bunch: Yes! Thanks so much for answering my question. I was pretty young during NKOTB so my point of reference is sometime around the CK ads. That was a serious crush I had

Amy Argetsinger: Glad to help.

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Evan Bayh's sons: They're cute? Are you sure there's not a cute one and another one?

Amy Argetsinger: Hmmm, I guess that could be possible. That's always unfortunate, isn't it? Sort of like Ashton Kutcher and his twin.

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Rockville, Md.: On rock stars: You can't argue taste. Pearl Jam has survived for 20 years, their concerts have sold out or sold well for 20 years, they've sold literally millions of records, and they still draw people to concerts, in 2008. Obviously, millions of people like Pearl Jam. As for Coldplay -- same thing. They just played to huge crowds on a stadium tour this summer -- drawing hundreds of thousands of people out to see them. They have also sold millions of records--literally. Obviously, many people like them. You just argue taste. Many people like Pearl Jam and Coldplay -- it's a fact.

Amy Argetsinger: I didn't think we were arguing taste. I thought we were arguing whether Eddie Vedder is hot or not.

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He leveraged his fleeting teen-idol fame into lasting wealth. : Maybe that's because he saw what happened to David Cassidy.

Amy Argetsinger: Probably.

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Cindy cut off her sister: The credit card stopped working the day after the funeral.

Roxanne Roberts: I read something like that, but it was her half-sister's kids that had the card. Still, a bit of a bum's rush, which is why I think there's more to this than we know.

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Arlington, Va.: If you're referred to as an only child while growing up and later find out that you have a half-brother or -sister, would you necessarily say that you have a sister?

Amy Argetsinger: That's a fair point.

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Excessive sympathy 'r' us:"Doesn't it just seem odd that multi-millionaires with great looks, loads of down time, and huge houses, nice cars, great clothes and a great life complain about meeting people? Give us a break."

No. It doesn't seem odd to me. Did you miss the memo about money not buying you love? It's not just a song, it's true. I'm sure I do know a dozen men who would happily date Meg Ryan, and I'm just as sure that most if not all would be more interested in the nice cars etc., and in her public image, than in whatever she might be like herself. I imagine that's an incredibly tough position for dating.

Amy Argetsinger: What you said.

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What if those references are COMPLETELY nonsensical? Does that count? : I think it does. Aren't most references to stuff like that nonsense? Have you ever tried to figure out any Seal lyrics? It can't be done.

Amy Argetsinger: I can't remember the last time I heard a Seal song.

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And plus: Cindy didn't just say she was an only child (in 'that' family), I heard clips of her saying she was her dad's only child. That's sorta different and MORE misleading.

Roxanne Roberts: Which is what started this whole mess.

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Fairfax County firefighter and EMT: Wow, a career change for Jill Carroll. But why Fairfax County? I live here and would like a career change. Should I do it?

Amy Argetsinger: Go for it!

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washingtonpost.com: Summer's Bumper Crop Of Monsters ( Post, Aug. 19)

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Mark Wahlberg: And he was the brains behind Entourage. Or is, if the show is still going.

And, he's hot.

Donnie was in some movie about jewelry salesmen that was pretty good. Can't remember the title.

Amy Argetsinger: And wasn't Donnie the burgler in the opening scenes of "The Sixth Sense"? He was also in that short-lived show I loved, "Boomtown."

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how DO you pronounce "Rielle"? : Ree-ELLE

Amy Argetsinger: Okay.

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It's pronounced: Reee-elle

Amy Argetsinger: Thank you.

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Washington, D.C.:"Amy Argetsinger: Okay, well you tell me -- how DO you pronounce "Rielle"?"

Easy - "Sara."

Amy Argetsinger: Actually, she was born "Lisa."

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Lisa/Rielle/John Edwards: I think the Jay McInerny connection is fascinating -- that Rielle Hunter used to be a NYC party girl Lisa Druck. Has anyone read the book Jay wrote based on her? This whole sad tale confirms what I have always thought about men as good looking as John Edwards. You can't trust 'em. You wouldn't find Henry Waxman up these hijinks.

Amy Argetsinger: You kind of have to wonder what he was thinking. I mean, don't you think she just radiated crazy the minute she walked in the room? Maybe that was the appeal.

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Does me going to see Peter Tork tonight in concert in Vienna...: count as a sighting? I'm so exited to hear what's he's been up to since the original boy band broke up!

Amy Argetsinger: Tork's performing solo these days? Let us know if he says anything funny. Oh, and reminder to everyone to pass on good tips to reliablesource@washpost.com

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If you're referred to as an only child while growing up and later find out that you have a half-brother or -sister, would you necessarily say that you have a sister? : Cindy KNEW about her older sister. It wasn't a surprise sprung on her in adulthood!

Amy Argetsinger: Okay.

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Chicago, Ill.: How soon until we get a VH1 reality dating show (i.e. Flavor of love) staring Rielle Hunter?

Amy Argetsinger: Not soon enough.

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Rice? No Cheney: Do we forget that Cheney may be going back to Haliburton and all their billions. I think that Rice will make money in the celebrity type way-speeches and such. But dollar for dollar, I think Cheney will make the big bucks.

Amy Argetsinger: Arguably. But he's no rock star like Condi.

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Denver, Colo.: I am amazed how some families can be so greedy. How on earth can Cindy McCain inherit the brewery business from her father and allow her half-siblings to be practically cut out? Wouldn't common decency dictate that everyone should be given some company stock or at least a no-show job?

Amy Argetsinger: Is it "All happy families are the same, but every unhappy family is unhappy in its own way"? Or is it the other way around?

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Houston, Tex.: My heart is breaking today over LeRoi Moore -- just saw DMB on Friday night and had hoped there was some way he'd be better to play that show. Also had to cancel plans at the last minute see the band play in Hershey -- his second to last show...if I had only known...sad day today...

washingtonpost.com: DMB Sax Player Dies at 46 from ATV Wreck Injuries ( AP, Aug. 20)

Amy Argetsinger: It is sad indeed.

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Reeeee-elle: That's the way it's pronounced, right? Perfect for a party animal who wants to look sophisticated.

My fake name was always Vivian, and now that I think about I'm sure a lot of people thought I was a bit strange.

Amy Argetsinger: Wasn't that Julia Roberts' fake name in "Pretty Woman"? Or was that her real name?

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Hee: Methinks J.Freedom likes to draw the ire of fans. That hubbub over the "other Jonas" when y'all were gone was awesome. Whatever style editor chose to run the responses with spelling and punctuation as submitted was genius!

washingtonpost.com: They Love Kevin Jonas! The Pop Critic, Not So Much. ( Post, Aug. 13)

Amy Argetsinger: Yes, this was brilliant -- please read if you haven't already.

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Washington, D.C.: I'm no Cindy McCain fan, but I do have to side with her a little bit. I have a half-brother, but definitely consider myself an only child. We never lived together, and have only met a few times in my life. In fact, I often forget I even have a half sibling, and expect he does the same.

Though, if my father was insanely wealthy and left everything to me, I'd like to think I'd not ignore him entirely.

Roxanne Roberts: There's a difference between you and Cindy: She's kind of running for First Lady, and so although she "thinks" of herself as an only child, she really isn't---but has made statements that lead the public to that conclusion. It's really not that big a deal to mention in passing that you have half-siblings who you never really knew. To gloss over the point comes across as rewriting history to present a perfect picture, when it's not true.

The money part is WAY more complicated and personal.

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Eddie Vedder really hot or not?: Definitely NOT. Can you even understand anything he sings either? I mean, it's ridiculous. The great thing about listening to them though, is you can just make up the words and since nobody else knows the words either, they think you're right.

I'm glad you guys are back from vacation. I've been on maternity leave for a month now, and although I only slept one hour last night I still want to know what's going on in the gossip world. The baby is finally sleeping, but in her bouncy seat on top of the bed next to me, so I can't go back to sleep. Let's chat quietly, everyone, please. Better to have no sleep than no sleep AND a screaming baby.

Amy Argetsinger: Thanks... We've tried to keep the volume down, just for you.

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Alexandria, Va.: Okay, I'm clueless...who's Rielle?

Amy Argetsinger: Rielle Hunter? The crazylady campaign videographer that John Edwards confessed to having an affair with? Oh dear, you are out of touch.

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Chicago, Ill.: I know Elizabeth Edwards is America's sweetheart and she only found out about the affair the day after they announced their run for the white house. But when she got her terminal cancer diagnosis, two months later, she had a free chance to drop out. Given she made the decision to keep running, despite the necessity of lying about John's extra marital affair, doesn't she share some complicity?

Amy Argetsinger: You know... that's an interesting point.

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Nonsensical lyrics: Tell me what ANY song by REM is about.

Amy Argetsinger: Um...

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Falls Church, Va.: Isn't Cindy McCain in her 50's? C'mon! It's time to bury that hatchet, mend some fences and reunite with her sisters and nieces and nephews. Family is all you have sometime. Or is her arrogance sky high because she may be the new first lady?

Amy Argetsinger: Well -- these things are always a two-way street, you know?

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If you're referred to as an only child while growing up and later find out that you have a half-brother or -sister, would you necessarily say that you have a sister? : I would. The shock of finding out would reappear every time I was asked if I had siblings. And I'd say yes, a half-sister I don't know well. No reason to lie about. Just like there's no reason to lie about liking Coldplay or Pearl Jam. If you do, you do. You either have a half-sister or you don't. It's pretty simple.

Roxanne Roberts: Plus, I don't think it was ever a secret. Kathleen is 11 years older than Cindy, so they were never likely to spend time together, but they knew about each other. My guess is that Wife Number Two (Cindy's mom) was never too gung-ho about making Wife Number One and her kids part of one big happy Hensley clan. Especially since dad left his first wife for Cindy's mom.

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Vivian = Julia Roberts in Pretty Woman: I was trying to figure out why the Brangelina baby name creeped me out... now I know! Thank you.

Amy Argetsinger: You're welcome.

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Half-sister: Not everyone is excited about finding out you have a sibling that you knew nothing about, just ask my half-sister who I found 10 years ago and she was shocked and preferred to NOT have/form a relationship with me, which was fine. I didn't expect her to embrace me. It's different for every situation.

Amy Argetsinger: I'm sorry. These situations are endlessly complicated.

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Leesburg, Va.: Re Rielle Hunter -- any truth to the rumor I just started that Tony Danza is the baby's father?

Amy Argetsinger: We will definitely look into it.

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Solution to Meg Ryan Dating Problems: She should continue with the plastic surgery until she is unrecognizable, and then she might be able to find someone who will not be intimidated by Meg Ryan.

On a similar note, did you hear that since her breakup with the skeevy John Meyer, her people have been calling around Hollywood trying to arrange dates with Hollywood types. Word got out and she told them to stop. She should just use JDate like the rest of us.

Roxanne Roberts: Love that!

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Pronunciation: I saw a reference last week to the effect that her name is pronounced "Reilly." As in "the life of", I guess.

Today's stories are particularly sordid. "Love Lips" was bad enough, but every time Elizabeth's name comes up, I cringe. So much worse than Monica Lewinsky, partly because Edwards was so sanctimonious during the impeachment hearings, in spite of leading the Clinton defense. Just writing this makes me want to take a shower.

Amy Argetsinger: See? Who are we to say that that TV anchor is mispronouncing Rielle? Clearly none of us rielle knows.

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Family is all you have sometime.: Sigh. For some of us this is a very scary thought.

Amy Argetsinger: Ha!

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Nightswimming: is about skinny-dipping. Right? Or am I way to literal?

Amy Argetsinger: Sounds about right.

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REM lyrics: Shiny happy people holding hands. Chorus says it all

Amy Argetsinger: True.

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More nonsensical lyrics: from an earlier age - tell me what any songs by Steely Dan is about....

Amy Argetsinger: Well, apparently when they were singing about Annandale, they didn't mean Northern Virginia. I know that now.

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Elizabeth Edwards complicit?: I don't think so. Sadly, she says she did it so her kids don't hate him, because she'll be gone soon and he's all they'll have.

Amy Argetsinger: The People magazine story was interesting. Though the most interesting thing about it was that her team decided to go public with her apparent side of the story.

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Rockville, Md.: Oops. Meant to say "you can't argue taste!" meaning, there's always going to be people hating and liking the same band, that's all! As for Vedder -- I remember when the band began popular in the early '90s, women thought Vedder was attractive and used to talk about his looks all the time. Maybe it's just not talked about as much now since Vedder and Pearl Jam are pretty established now.

Amy Argetsinger: And they've passed that teen-idol stage...

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John Edwards: Skeevy as his affair is, I'm totally shocked at his dismissal of the baby. No, "I don't believe it's mine, but I'll take the paternity test because of course if she is mine, I want to step up and be in her life..."which is what any truly decent man running on a platform of morality would do.

Roxanne Roberts: The mom has said there will be no test to protect her baby's "privacy." Oh, plees-se.

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Pearl Jam predates STP!: Or at least they did in my version of the nineties.

Amy Argetsinger: Their first big radio hits co-existed in the middle of 2002...

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Rielle: sounds like a cheap champagne. Something you drink on prom night.

Amy Argetsinger: Yum!

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More Cindy McCain: It also doesn't help that the McCain family statement about the matter sounded cold and without grace. Re: the money/will . . . my cynical mind read that the half-sister and her children were supported through college and she was surprised at the $10k slap in the face. And there were a lot of amendments made to his will -- I kinda hope that some reporter will dig into that and see if he was mentally/physically infirm at any point and his will was changed then with some prodding by the 2nd wife. Lousy treatment of family and Cindy sounds like a petulant princess who doesn't want to share.

Roxanne Roberts: I'm sure some reporter will, although it's not really central to the question of whether people should vote for John McCain. But anyone running for president (and spouse) should expect that every aspect of their life is going to get a full examination.

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Clooney, center of the universe: So, I thought you'd find this interesting. My friend and I have wildly divergent taste in men. It's kind of amazing. So we decided to determine who falls in the center of our venn diagram of hotness. Famous person: George Clooney. Many drinks at many bars later, we have determined that no real person does. Does this mean that George Clooney is perfect?

Amy Argetsinger: Actually, I know a lot of straight men who have Clooney on their lists, so yes, he probably is some kind of Platonic ideal or universal blood type.

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Political wives: I know the Edwards' life is complicated with kids and cancer and all that, but wouldn't it be great if just once a political wife publicly put the scoundrel out to the curb?

Amy Argetsinger: It's like with the Eliot Spitzer case. Didn't you just sort of want Silpa to NOT stand by his side at the press conference?

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The center of our venn diagram of hotness.: Can you pelase let the chatter who submiited this that their phrase totally made my afternoon?

Amy Argetsinger: Much obliged.

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Bethesda, Md.: You guys going to the conventions? What are you looking forward to? What can we expect to hear from you? Any chats planned?

Amy Argetsinger: I'm going to Denver, Rox is going to Minneapolis. I'm looking forward to Willie Nelson, Public Enemy and whether or not Kanye West says something outrageous at the big RIAA/One party. Oh, and I guess the speeches, you know. Yes, we're hoping to do the chats.

Roxanne Roberts: I'm looking forward to not sleeping and racing back and forth from Minneapolis and St. Paul. Oh, and seeing if my hometown midwestern accent (yes, I was born in Minneapolis) comes back.

We expect to be chatting as usual next week, unless Amy gets swept up in some freak Denver snowstorm. In any event, I'll be here to sl-ow-ly type my answers. In the meanwhile, please send your tips/observations/family trees to reliablesource@washpost.com. Missed you all! Glad to be back!

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