Celebritology Live: Jen's Undying Love; Britney's Clever 'If U Seek Amy'

You've Been Served... a Heaping Plate of Gossip

When stars shave their heads, marry (or divorce) inadvisedly, couch-jump, spend countless minutes in jail, commit a fashion faux pas and/or other random acts of ego-inspired inanity, washingtonpost.com Celebritology blogger Liz Kelly is on the job. Every weekday, Liz shares the buzz, offers perspective and provides crucial links to juicy alternate news sources and, of course, takes your reaction in her daily blog.

Join Liz LIVE every Thursday at 2 p.m. ET to gab about the latest celebrity pairings (and splittings), rising stars (and falling ones), and get the scoop on the latest gossip making waves across the Web.

In her pre-celeb obsessed days (as if!), Liz ran washingtonpost.com's Discussions section, where she enjoyed talking to really interesting people -- sometimes even Post reporters -- on the phone. She still produces Pulitzer-prize winner Gene Weingarten's weekly Chatological Humor discussion and serves as co-proprietress of post.com's "Lost" Central.

Celebritology Live Archive

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Liz Kelly: Afternoon and welcome to this afternoon's show.

You know me. I'm not one to stoke the embers a story that should be utter ash at this point, but I am -- again -- interested in your reaction to the fact that Jennifer Aniston is still commenting on her long-over marriage to (and divorce from) Brad Pitt. The latest is her comment to "Hello" magazine: "I will love Brad for the rest of my life - you can't take away good memories."

So, I'm interested in your take. Who is keeping this thing alive? Is it the reporters who keep asking her about Brad? Or is it Jen's fault for answering? Can't she just say "no comment?"

And Britney Spears debuted her video for the mildly controversial single "IF U Seek Amy" today. If you're able to watch, do so -- then vote in the poll:

poll by twiigs.com

Writing the piece earlier this week about the Madonna retrospective sent me into a full-on Madge flashback. So today's show soundtrack is the "Immaculate Collection."

Let's get started...

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Outside the Beltway: Forgive me if you've covered this, but I'm so conflicted about the Rihanna/Chris Brown situation. Am I the only one who both hates and understands the black/white of the issue? Yes, Rihanna should leave him because he beat her up, but I hate to start nailing down the coffin of such a young man -- people can change, right? I both want him to get another chance and never get another chance. Ugh. Celebrity dust-ups are supposed to be fun.

Liz: We still don't know all of the facts here, even though the court docs look pretty bleak for Brown but I'm inclined to side with Oprah on the whole thing -- Rihanna and Brown both need to (and I paraphrase) heal and look after their own interests right now. In fact, O will be doing a whole show today about domestic violence dedicated to "all the Rihannas of the world" and here's hoping that some of it gets through to Rihanna herself.

These are both very young people. There is time to grow and change and break cycles of abuse. But the odds of them beating the statistics together are pretty slim. The best thing these two can do for each other is get out of each other's lives, at least for now. And Brown's best second chance will be the opportunity to learn how to deal with his anger without resorting to physical violence and maybe getting some therapy to deal with whatever it is that brings him to that point. The music should be a distant second at this point.

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Cleveland Park, DC - compulsive Brad comments: I truly believe Jennifer Aniston's publicity people are out to get her - Why haven't they forcibly grabbed her by the shoulders and explained that while talking about her ex may get her lame tab headlines, it makes her look pathetic, and exhausts the public (okay, me) who might otherwise have gone to see one of her movies, but is now just sick of her. Enough!

Liz Kelly: Publicists can do only so much. Once their stars are one-on-one with a reporter, they're not able to do much to intercede and head off ill-conceived quotes.

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Oakton, Va.: Since I know you're a fan, here's a new Chuck Norris fact: Chuck Norris can secede from the Union.

Liz Kelly: Thank you.

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Nosy Parker: I was pleased to read a rave review of Tom Wopat's latest gig singing at NYC Algonquin Hotel. He has of course been successful on Broadway, but the breakout fame he achieved on "The Dukes of Hazzard" could have sunk serious career aspirations. Perhaps a Friday List idea might be of celebs who came back from potentially career-ending roles, and the roles that salvaged their reputations. For starters, I'm thinking of Sally Field (from "Gidget" and "The Flying Nun" to "Sibyl"), Jessica Lange (from "King Kong" to "All That Jazz"), but I'm sure the Lizards can come up with a bunch more.

washingtonpost.com: Vincent Vega?

Liz Kelly: Vincent Vega, most definitely. But now Travolta needs a second career saver.

Mickey Rourke in "The Wrestler" is the most recent example I can think of. I'll gladly accept more throughout the hour.

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Arlington, Va. : Any truth to the rumors about Brad and the nanny? Do tell!

Liz Kelly: The only ones who know are Brad, Angie and the nanny and none of them is calling me to dish.

Personally, I tend to doubt that Brad was busted giving the nanny a backrub in the twins' bedroom. It just doesn't sound like him. Though I was surprised when Jude Law went after the nanny, too, so who knows.

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Not so hard to figure: Liz : Seems to me that Jen is keeping the door open for Brad in case having an international menagerie of adopted kids and a slightly crazy wife gets the best of him. Wouldn't you keep the door open for Brad?

Liz Kelly: Well, who wouldn't -- if there was a chance he'd make use of it. But I just don't see him backsliding. How often do people divorce, start raising six kids with someone else, then return to their first spouse.

Not gonna happen. And, frankly, I'd be a little wigged out if my first husband was talking about me at every given opportunity.

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luvlinsey: plz stop mayking fun of my bff linsey. she's awsum and her new tannying line is going 2 be the bestest! i bett this is going to help her wyn an oscar!!!!!!

Liz Kelly: LuvLinsey -- welcome back. There's nothing I can add to make your excellent statement any better.

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If U Seek Amy...: you must be in the DEA.

I can't watch the B.S. video but what else could possibly be the topic of that song?

And from this morning's mix, say what you will about Amy, but she's cheaper to dress than Sarah Palin.

Liz Kelly: And, we have to assume Amy is at least blowing her own money.

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Jen-ni-fah: "All those happy memories..." they were married for five years and most of the time, he was off filming something or other.

Come ON.

Liz Kelly: I'm sure they had plenty of happy memories. I don't think we can question the fact that they once did love each other -- enough to marry and try to build a future.

Jen's right in thinking that people who don't remain together can still love one another, but we don't need to talk about it all the time.

I can't imagine it isn't a major turnoff for John Mayer. And given recent rumors of discord in that relationship, maybe it was.

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Brad and the Nan, NY: It would be so much more interesting and scandalous if it turned out to be a man-ny.

Liz Kelly: I like the way you think.

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washingtonpost.com: Where would Brad cheating on Angelina rank on the all-time "Can you believe he cheated on HER" scale? Above or below Eric Benet and Halle Berry?

washingtonpost.com: Where would Brad cheating on Angelina rank on the all-time "Can you believe he cheated on HER" scale? Above or below Eric Benet and Halle Berry?

Liz Kelly: Oh, way above.

This would rival Tom cheating on Katie.

Okay. Bad example.

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Levi & Bristol - alternate reality question: Liz - as someone "inside the beltway" do you think if McCain/Palin had won the election those kids would have been forced to marry?

Liz Kelly: Okay, since you asked, I'll bite.

Yep. Either that or the engagement would have been protracted over four long years. Maybe I'm a cynic, but I kept picturing Levi with a shotgun to his back at the RNC.

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Michael Jackson, The Wiz: I was reading up on MJ for my comment to this morning's mix and imagine being "washed up" at 18 years old. His career with Mowtown had hit the skids. Then he met Quincy Jones, who cast him as the Scarecrow, perfected his dance moves and it changed his life and career completely.

Liz Kelly: I haven't had a chance to read your MM comment, but I'm sure it was insightful and funny and I'm the worse for not reading it.

I'm sorry, but I'm totally distracted right now by "The Man With the Golden Gun" on TV. I've got the volume down, but it is just hilarious -- even muted -- watching Roger Moore drive through some southeast Asia town in what looks to be a Mustang Fastback with Clifton James as Sheriff J.W. Pepper. Hard to believe this came out before "Smokey and the Bandit."

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Washington, D.C.: I'm mildly sympathetic to Jen. I too have found myself saying more than I meant to because it seemed rude not to answer, or because the questioner seemed like a kindred spirit who might understand.

But just mildly sympathetic, because it shouldn't take this long for her to overcome good manners and start shutting the idiot reporters down. And once she does it a couple times, the rest might get the hint and stop asking. No one wants their big "get" Aniston interview to go bye-bye because they asked the wrong question and she stormed out in a huff.

Liz Kelly: Right -- it's been four years. I would start to resent being asked about Brad at this point

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Again re: Jen: Aren't celebrity interviews typically preceded by contractual guidelines regarding what the interviewer may and may not ask about? It seems to me I've seen several small flaps about some celeb who puts the kibosh on certain lines of questioning in advance.

Why don't Jen's people do that when setting up the interviews?

So maybe she really does think any publicity is good publicity.

Liz Kelly: Good question. In my limited experience, I'm sometimes told (by publicists) to not ask about certain subjects. I usually do anyway and -- more often than not -- get an answer. But I've also gotten a few stink eyes from celebs who really didn't want to go there.

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Charlotte, N.C.: You said, "Mickey Rourke in "The Wrestler" is the most recent example I can think of. I'll gladly accept more throughout the hour." But I think the original poster's point wasn't about a comeback as about silly roles early in an actor's career not derailing that career altogether. We can still probably count Travolta since he started on Welcome Back Kotter. Sally Field going from Gidget to major movie star is a great example. DiCaprio, too, if you remember that he started on "Growing Pains" before he became box office magic. I'm sure there are others.

washingtonpost.com: Tom Hanks OWNS this. From "Bosom Buddies" and "Bachelor Party" to two-time Best Actor, five-time nominee.

Liz Kelly: Okay. I get your point.

Any list of this sort has got to include George Clooney -- who I first remember as a mulleted hearthrob on "The Facts of Life."

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tired of Jen: Just this week, I have seen the following headlines about Jennifer: she's having Mayer's baby! She's not having a baby! She broke up with Mayer! No she didn't! She still loves Brad! She ate dog food in Germany!

I love to read People and your Celebritology blog, but the endless stream of "news" about Jen is seems artificial and is just boooooring.

Why can't her people have her do something interesting, like cheat on Mayer with Samantha Ronson, or shave her head?

Liz Kelly: So you're saying Jen's boring? I think she's heard that before.

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Confession...: When I watched the "John Adams" series, I developed a serious crush on Thomas Jefferson. I still think about him sometimes...

Liz Kelly: Okay. I'll also accept any confessions.

I can't do much in the way of absolution, but sometimes just sharing makes a difference.

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Chicago: Since you're also a producer, can I mention to you that I don't like the new way the Live Online chats are listed on the web site's front page. It's harder to read, less informative, and generally less effective. Oh, but the chats are still incredible. Thanks.

washingtonpost.com: I ask this sincerely -- the idea was to use the whole space to get more info in the headline. What is it about the longer headline that you find less informative?

Liz Kelly: Just putting this out there.

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Diddy's explanation for aiding Chris Brown in reuniting with Rihanna: Arrgh! This case is like root-canal for the psyche! Every thing about Chris Brown/Rihanna is maddening. Especially so is P Diddy's weasily answer on "Ellen" as to why he facilitated last week's reunion in Miami:

"It's my house. I'm allowed to give my house to whoever I want to give my house to."

washingtonpost.com: YouTube - Sean "Diddy" Combs talks Chris Brown & Rihanna!

Liz Kelly: Good for Ellen for nailing Diddy on this one. His answer is pretty bad. For those of you who can't watch at work, he basically says we don't know what is going on and we need to pray for them and that people who have been in relationships know things happen.

He needs to stick to Danity Kane and not style himself as some kind of relationship Switzerland.

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Jude Law??: You were surprised when he went after the nanny? Really? Jude Law would go after anything that has two legs and (insert unprintable analogy here)! He's a total stank, as we say in celebritology lingo.

Liz Kelly: It's not like I party with the guy.

Did everyone catch the photos earlier this week of Jude partying with some of what look to be New York's real housewives?

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George will always be George from Facts of Life: That is why I've never been able to fully appreciate the Clooney. He'll always be the George that was hanging around Mrs. Garrett and Tootie. with a mullet. George had the mullet not Tootie. Mrs. Garrett on the other hand...

Liz Kelly: Do you remember when Mrs. Garrett opened that idiotic store. I can't even remember what they sold. The show had so jumped the shark by the time they moved into town and started having careers and whatnot.

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Ohio: In regards to Jennifer Aniston's PR moves, I think the most interesting aspect of it would be Brad Pitt's possible input.

Aniston spoke about a long phone call he apparently made to her (sometime back) in which they resolved things. I'm guessing Pitt made that call after Aniston started making "Brad is missing a sensitivity chip" type comments to the press.

Pitt micromanaged, in my opinion, their PR when he was married to Aniston. And I don't think that someone as image-conscious as Pitt, would pass up any opportunity to keep Aniston from making negative comments about him. So, somehow, he has worked out a way to have input into Aniston's public comments about him. Which all became very complimentary. Aniston makes negative allusions about Jolie but not Pitt.

Liz Kelly: I don't know that I buy that. Jen is hardly revealing anything truly personal or detailed about their relationship. Most of her comments tend to be of the "I was hurt," "I still love him," "I wish him the best" variety. I doubt he's working overtime to squash her habit for gushing and wistfulness.

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Silver Spring, Md.: Hi Liz: I think the reason Jennifer Aniston can't stop talking about Brad is that she really regrets the marriage failing. She's still in mourning all these years later. She realizes that she had the ability to control her situation, that if she was less greedy for fame, or less greedy for money, or had let go of her need to move from being a TV star to a MOVIE star, that her life would be very, very different right now. The thing is, she should be talking to a counselor about it, not the press.

Liz Kelly: We may have a winner here.

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Fairfax, Va.: And, frankly, I'd be a little wigged out if my first husband was talking about me at every given opportunity.

Yes, Liz, actually it is creepy. Brad seems to be a better person than I have been in his position. At least I haven't seen any "Geez, just get over me already," or "For crying out loud, move on, I have a new family now" quotes from him...

Liz Kelly: Right. He tends to stay mum about the whole thing. Which strikes me as the gentlemanly thing to do (taking into account that the way he left Jen wasn't quite as sensitive).

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"John Adams" confession: Okay that miniseries had a weird effect on me to - I could never stand Rufus Sewell until I saw him as Alexander Hamilton on "John Adams" -- now I watch "The 11th Hour" every week.

Liz Kelly: I liked Rufus in "Cold Comfort Farm." A movie that featured the then-gawky, and possibly pre-surgery, Kate Beckinsale.

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Liz Kelly: I want to revisit a comment from above -- about Jen's motivations. I read that one way too fast and while I agree with the first premise -- that Jen regrets the marriage ending and is still in mourning -- I do not at all agree that the marriage failed because she was "greedy" for more fame or money. That doesn't even make sense.

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Bond: Yes, "The Man with the Golden Gun" is okay, but "Goldfinger" is oh-so-much better, not only because it's SEAN and not ROGER, but also because of the classic Bond exchange - Bond: "Do you expect me to talk?" Blofeldt: "No, Mr. Bond, I expect you do die!" Doesn't get much better, especially with a laser headed for the family jewels.

washingtonpost.com: Britt Eckland in "Golden Gun" is a great Bond girl though.

Liz Kelly: You know who's never been a Bond girl? Scarlett Johansson or Megan Fox.

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Old-Fashioned Gal: I think it's kind of funny that Katie Holmes showed up in Japan with long hair. Did she think no one in Japan had been paying attention to the fact that she's the poster girl for short bobbed hair?

I've always thought of hair as an accessory, of sorts, but how do you suddenly go "long" and explain that?

Liz Kelly: I'm glad you brought this up.

I thought Kate looked fab with the extensions -- she looked like her old self. And I doubt anyone was puzzled about how much her hair grew overnight. Celebs change hairstyles as often as they change clothes -- and that includes adding and subtracting extensions.

So I don't think there's any explaining to do. Now if Tom had shown up with the extansions -- that would have required some kind of detailed statement.

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Amy .. I get the video: but am I missing something else? Obscene title?

Liz Kelly: Yes. Say it out loud.

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Harrisburg, Pa.: Speaking of celebrity gossip: Any word on how Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Gene Weingarten is doing? I hope he is recovering quickly and feels fine. How did the surgery go and how is he doing?

Liz Kelly: He came through his surgery well and is already doing PT to get himself back in shape before May's Post Hunt. I've talked to him almost every day this week and he'll be back to his regularly scheduled chatting on Tuesday, so you can ask him yourself.

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Aniston: It's really kind of sad. She spent 10 years on a pretty successful sitcom that made her fantastically wealthy, she spent 5 years married to Brad Pitt with whom her major accomplishment was be half of a pretty couple. Now she's most remembered as Brad's castoff, you'd think she'd want to change this perception.

washingtonpost.com: She'll always have "Office Space."

Liz Kelly: And her "flair."

What you describe is a pretty typical trajectory for TV stars -- minus the "Brad's cast off" bit. Look at the stars of "Seinfeld." The only one who made any kind of post-"Seinfeld" career is Julia Louis-Dreyfus. Even Jerry himself -- despite "Bee" movie -- is kind of a one-note guy. And when I'm feeling down I console myself with the fact that Evangeline Lilly will probably descend back into obscurity after "Lost's" last season.

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Washington, D.C.: "Okay. I'll also accept any confessions"

Okay, here's mine - I've got a serious crush on Paul Rudd, and I think my husband's finally catching-on (I think it was my repeatedly expressed desire to see "I Love You, Man", a genre that is seriously outside my usual preferences)...

Am I the only one?

Liz Kelly: My Paul Rudd crush peaked early -- with "Clueless."

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Bond: Wait, we're discussing Bond and there's no gratuitious Daniel Craig pics?!

washingtonpost.com: My bad: here you go.

Liz Kelly: What, no one clamoring for Roger Moore in a skin-hugging swimsuit?

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Mrs. Garrett's store: ...was called "Over our Heads" and stocked '80s doo-dads and Oingo-Boingo records.

Liz Kelly: Got that one burned into your memory, eh?

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Bethesda, Md.: I tend to think that those who are so into the lives of movie stars, rock stars, etc. need to get one themselves. Why do we as a society waste so much money, newsprint, and TV time on the lives of the "rich and famous"?

Liz Kelly: I've answered this a few times, but I think it's a good question to revisit from time to time. So instead of recycling what I've said before, I'll take answers from you guys. If you don't want to tackle the over-all group think, just send in your personal motivations.

Liz Kelly: And I'd actually be interested if you could write in, Bethesda, with your thoughts. Since you're here I assume you have at least a passing interest in celebs -- so what's the draw for you?

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Nosy Parker: Charlotte's right. What I meant was performers whose careers famously stunk so badly that they were long the punch lines to bad jokes, yet they overcame the odds to become respected in their fields. There are probably singers in this category as well as actors.

Liz Kelly: Yep -- though I'm drawing a blank. Anyone?

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interviews about the vampire: Yeah, I'm sure Jen's tired of being asked about Brad, but wouldn't it just make the same amount of fuss, or more fuss, if she refused to talk about him? Then we'd all be calling sour grapes, etc. I think it's fairly gracious, considering how it all ended, to say yes, he's a good guy, we had some great times together.

Liz Kelly: I think after a few "no comments" the "refusal to talk" story would lose its potency.

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ifyouseekamy: ...IIIII'm still not getting it. I'm feeling quite dense.

Liz Kelly: E-mail me: liz.kelly@wpost.com.

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speaking of the Clooney: is he really back on ER tonight? A return of Dr. Ross may make it worth tuning into that show for the first time in, oh, 5 years!

Liz Kelly: That's the word on the street. But with no Juliana Marguiles, how exciting can his return get?

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Juliette Lewis and Brad: I know she's barely famous anymore but how come no one ever mentions their relationship?

I was always kind of creeped out by the fact that they lived together when she was a teen (17 maybe?) and he was, like, 10 years older...

I am one of those women, though, who can appreciate that he is good looking but does not find him personally attractive...

Liz Kelly: There are just so many more interesting things about Juliette to talk about -- her band, her whackadoodle outfits, etc.

Though they made a fabulous couple in "Kalifornia." One of the best quotes ever is from that movie. Sadly, I can't repeat it here.

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Re Britt Eckland : She'd be perfect for Dancing with the Stars!

Liz Kelly: Ooh -- a whole "Battle of the Bond Girls" dance-off would be genius.

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Atlanta: Just wanted to say "Thank you, Liz" for that awesome Jon Hamm Funny or Die clip this morning. It set the tone for my entire day. It's been a regular laugh riot. And the pain meds help.

washingtonpost.com: "Lex Luthor Bailout" with Jon Hamm

Liz Kelly: Good!

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Out of work with a college degree: So you're watching TV, listening to Madonna and chatting with people about Brad Pitt ? How do I apply to be your assistant ?

Liz Kelly: Hey, I'm multitasking.

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"He tends to stay mum about the whole thing.": I was just reading in my Oscar Us Weekly that when a "polite Us reporter" asked him about Jen's job as a presenter, he basically said, "Really? You're going there? You all need to stop."

This is one area where I actually feel sorry for celebs. I'm sure divorce sucks for everyone. I can't imagine being asked about my ex - in front of my new partner, no less - constantly.

Liz Kelly: Thanks for passing that along.

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You know who's never been a Bond girl? Scarlett Johansson or Megan Fox: Maybe because they're awful actresses? (Although that didn't stop Denise Richards from becoming "Christmas Jones...) Anyway, apparently the studios think Scarlett is so-so as well since Nikki Finke is reporting she's practically doing Iron Man 2 for free.

washingtonpost.com: ANOTHER 'IRON MAN 2' DEAL: Scarlett Johannson To Replace Emily Blunt As Black Widow For Lousy Lowball Money

Liz Kelly: Interesting. So you're saying a three-movie arc as Woody Allen's muse didn't up her asking price?

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Why I Snark: A Manifesto: Part voyeur, part curiosity, part envy (c'mon say it, you'll feel better), part superiority. The celebs do such impossibly stupid stuff at times that have to feel better about ourselves even our lives seem dull in comparison.

Liz Kelly: Thank you.

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You know who's never been a Bond girl? Scarlett Johansson or Megan Fox. : True, but you know who were bond girls? Jane Seymour and Denise Richards. And you know where it got them? That's right! Dancing With The Stars! I wouldn't wish that on ScarJo (and I'm a woman). Maybe for Megan Fox.

washingtonpost.com: Hey, Kim Bassinger was a Bond girl and went on to get an Oscar.

Liz Kelly: Yes, but she in the rogue Bond film, right? The unauthorized "Never Say Never Again." Should that really count?

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Britney: I notice the "inappropriate" response has received the least votes. I responded "idiotic," but for the record, I also think it is gratuitously profane in a very juvenile way. I can see where I'd team up with the ultra-conservatives on this one, although I'm not a prude.

Liz Kelly: I'm actually with you on this one even though I am hell and gone from ultraconservative. I think it's the ham-fisted way the chorus was constructed:

Love me hate me
say what you want about me
but all of the girls and boys are begging to
if u seek amy.

It makes no grammatical sense.

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Washington, D.C.: here's the thing: life is hard and can sometimes be really really boring. following celeb gossip is fun. Also, it is a good thing to talk about with people you don't know that well but need to spend time with (friends of friends, coworkers, etc.). Those are my reasons. And I think the gossip-haters/holier-than-thou people can just not pay attention. Why judge people who dabble in celeb gossip?

Liz Kelly: Right -- we all need a mental break from time to time.

My hope is that you'll time yours for every Thursday afternoon from 2 - 3 p.m. ET.

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Silver Spring, Md.: Hi Liz: Actually, it does make sense. Jennifer earned tens of millions of dollars from "Friends," was known all the world over, but then when it was over, it wasn't enough. She had to have more fame as a movie star and it conflicted with what her marriage partner wanted; which was a family.

Liz Kelly: We don't know that. That is all hearsay.

And your premise that Jen's desire for a career precluded she and Brad from having a family just doesn't work. If that was the case would he really have taken up with one of the hardest-working actresses in the world?

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"possibly pre-surgery, Kate Beckinsale": Oooh - what surgery(ies) has she been rumored to have undergone?

Liz Kelly: Well, here's Kate in "Cold Comfort Farm" and here's a more recent pic.

Though it could just be that she was very young -- she was only 22 in "Cold Comfort Farm" -- and has since filled out a bit.

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You're killing me: ...by setting me up for a Bond-a-thon this weekend. Sigh.

Wait, I'm not sure it's legal when it's described that way...

Liz Kelly: Oh, it's legal. And I'm recording four Bond films today with the hopes of tricking Mr. Liz into a Bond-a-Thon of our own.

Okay, that does sound weird.

I need to get out of here and move over to the "Lost" chat. See you back here next week.

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