Celebritology Live: Rosie and Kelly Split; Pinchot on Cruise; Glee

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Liz Kelly: Afternoon. Some of you wrote in about a problem with the blog crashing browsers earlier today. I'm happy to report that it is now fixed. Apparently the main blog page was attempting to load every post I'd ever written -- all 1,910 entries -- and after giving it a good try, the browser would just crash rather than be forced to read some of my earlier posts.

I hope everyone has had a chance to watch today's Twits. Some good stuff.

Okay, let's get started...

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Quirky ride ahead: In time for Halloween, what actor's presence signals to you that this will not be an ordinary performance, that one or more things will be (seriously) off kilter? Or that you are in for a big dose of crazy pantsedness? Dennis Hopper, Willem Dafoe, Christopher Walken, Woody Harrelson? Couldn't think of any women who automatically trigger that reaction.

Liz Kelly: Actually, Tilda Swinton does that for me. Sigourney Weaver, too.

Speaking of Halloween, on a recommendation from a trusted friend I tried to watch "Drag Me to Hell" last night. I couldn't even get through the first 30 minutes. It was like a trip to the Disney World haunted house. Should I have stuck with it?

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Olney, Md.: Oh no, Rosie and Kelli are splitting after 5 years together.

Since they live in various places, NYC and Miami, but were married in California, what happens if they divorce? Is it a 50-50 split?

Custody of the kids might be a nightmare. Any thoughts?

Liz Kelly: Can one of the Celebritology legal experts weigh in here? It doesn't matter where they were married, right? They will have to abide by the laws of the state in which they file divorce papers, right?

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Detroit, Mich.: I enjoyed reading Bronson Pichot's dishy interview in the AV Club, and wasn't surprised by the news that Tom Cruise is weird and Bette Midler can be a diva. However, I was shocked to hear that Denzel Washington was a jerk on the Courage Under Fire set. I had always heard Denzel was a nice guy. Am I totally out of the loop, or has this been repressed? (or does Bronson Pichot just have an ax to grind?)

washingtonpost.com: Bronson Pinchot Interview (Huffington Post)

Liz Kelly: I've never heard word one about Denzel being a prima donna -- or a jerk -- so I'm not sure whether or not we should take Bronson at his word. I mean, the two are practically perfect strangers.

And I've seen "Courage Under Fire" a few times and I honestly don't remember Balki, I mean Bronson, in it. I guess he must've just been outshone by Lou Diamond Phillips.

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I love Glee...: "mentally ill ginger pygmy with eyes like a bush baby"

Liz Kelly: You must be over the moon about the Glee news: Joss Whedon signed on to direct and episode and Madonna has given the show carte blanche to use her entire music catalog.

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Tracey Anderson: So is Gwynnie still using her? Or are her 15 minutes done?

Liz Kelly: There has been no official announcement from Gwynnie about a split from Anderson and since the two are partners in a New York gym, it might be a bit more difficult for her to walk away than it was for Madonna -- who parted ways with Anderson last week.

I guess we'll know they're on the outs if we don't see an Anderson video appear in Gwynnie's GOOP newsletter in the near future.

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Not a lawyer, but ...: ... went through a California divorce, and yes, you have to abide by the laws in which you are married. I had a prenup, but if Rosie and her wife don't, California is a community-property state. Which means the wife gets half.

Liz Kelly: So, wait -- if I married in Alaska I'd have to file divorce papers in that state and abide by Alaska law? Even if I now live in Virginia?

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Celeb train wrecks: So who do we think will implode first, LiLo or Amy Winehouse?

Liz Kelly: Ahh, easy to address:

Amy Winehouse has already imploded -- hence her St. Lucia sabbatical earlier this year. And now she's even starting to look after herself, what with the boob job and all.

As for Lilo -- she has seen better days. My money is on her returning to rehab before the year is out. Coincidentally, I'll have more about Lilo tomorrow in the blog.

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Jennifer's Body: I know Megan Fox has taken a career hit for the Jennifer's Body flop, but what about Diablo Cody? What's word about how she is being perceived now?

Side note: recent pictures of LiLo were truly scary. Is she coming close to the point where you stop coverage, like you did with Brit during her meltdowns?

Liz Kelly: Well, but Megan kind of opened herself up for extreme scrutiny by trashing Michael Bey and "Transformers." Yes, she's now backpedaled on that criticism, but once a genie's out of a bottle it's hard to put it back.

As for Diablo -- she's still got serious "Juno" cred working for her. Not to mention "United States of Tara." And, as far as I know, hasn't gone around trashing the people who made her famous. So I think she might get a pass on a box office stinker. I mean, hey, even Stephen King writes a bad book from time to time.

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Atlanta, Ga.: Did you read about Bronson Pinchot's tell-all about odd and "homophobic" comments made by Tom Cruise during the filming of Risky Business? And then Christian Bale saying he based his American Psycho character on Cruise? Poor wee Tom. He's everyone's whipping boy.

Liz Kelly: Poor wee Tom? My foot. Tom deserves what he gets. He's creepy, inhuman and ridiculously overrated. For years his bad behavior was explained away as "intensity." Now it's catching up to him.

I say go Bronson!

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Inquiring Minds: Why am I seeing giant type on every other refresh? Large print version?

Liz Kelly: I have no idea. Ghost in the machine?

Producer Rocci -- any ideas?

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washingtonpost.com: Looking okay to me in IE, will check others and consult our dynamic Tech department.

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washingtonpost.com: Looks okay in Firefox. What browser are you using?

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OMG she's alive? I always thought she was a ghost...: "Nicole Kidman spoke to the U.S. Congress yesterday to accuse Hollywood of contributing to violence against women by portraying them as sex objects"

Uhhh hypocrite much? Is there anyone in this chat who can't name at least 3 movies in which she played a sex object?

washingtonpost.com: Photo: Nicole Kidman (AP)

Liz Kelly: Yeah -- my first thought after seeing that was one of Nicole's first movies, "Dead Calm," which was great -- but about as violent as they come. And she basically wore a wet bathing suit throughout.

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Liz Kelly: Rocci just passed along this good piece on gay divorce from Huffington Post.

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L.A.: Arrgh! What is with these creepy dads of celebrities who keep feeling compelled to comment on their daughters' shoes? Ick Nast! At least Ryan O'Neal didn't realize it was his daughter when he was hitting on her. I'm seriously grossed out.

Liz Kelly: First, I'm not buying Ryan O'Neal's story. How do you not recognize your daughter -- especially when she looks basically the exact same way she did at age 10?

As for Winehouse's dad -- well, I guess he knows a good pair when he sees it.

Speaking of dads -- way to go Michael Lohan, who has been Twittering up a storm about Lilo this week. I'm sure that's exactly the right way to get her the help she needs, by Tweeting your thoughts on her demise to thousands of strangers.

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Californi,AN: How is Opie feeling? Do we get pics today?

Liz Kelly: Ya know, good question. Mr. Liz, Page and I decamped to Bethany Beach this week. Opie and Andy are home with one seriously cool cat sitter. I'm hoping no news is good news.

But, before we left I did take Opie to the vet and learned he had some kind of cat herpes virus that manifests as an upper respiratory infection. The vet's advice was to wait it out. And by Sunday he was already starting to perk up.

The bad news, tho, is that we shouldn't be surprised if Andy picks it up, too.

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One of the Gheys here: Actually, since Florida doesn't recognize same-sex marriage, they can't get a same-sex divorce. NYC laws would prevail, but only because a NY State judge rules that the state had no compelling reason not to recognize same sex marriages performed elsewhere. In fact a similar case just went before a Texas Judge, who struck down the state's ban on same-sex marriage, as a couple married in Massaschusetts was trying to divorce in Texas.

Tis a sticky subject all around.

Oh yeah, Rosie and Kelly have been together for longer than five years, she was the nanny/housekeeper for a while.

Liz Kelly: Thank you. Okay, this sounds like utter hell. And I thought my divorce was bad.

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Arlington, Va.: The photo from earlier this week of Donatella Versace scarred me for life. How could anyone see that staring back at them in a mirror and think anything other than "I need to sue my plastic surgeon"??

washingtonpost.com: Donatella Versace (AP)

Liz Kelly: I know. She's one step away from Jocelyn Wildenstein.

Liz Kelly: Here's a pic of Jocelyn.

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Big Font?: This happens to me every so often, regardless of the chat. Been happening all day today (I mean, I've been busy working), but not enough to be more than mildy annoying. I.e., multiple tabs, all washingtonpost.com pages.

Liz Kelly: Great. Maybe it's a feature, not a bug -- you know, part of the big redesign.

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House MD: Can I just say what a massive crush I have, again, on Hugh Laurie.

I had un-hooked myself from the reruns over the summer but just sat down last night to watch the TiVoed season premiere.

Any news on him or is he not on the radar? If not, any news on Kal Penn?

Liz Kelly: Ya know, I haven't heard much about either Hugh or Kal. Though the Reliable Sourcettes are likely to know more about what Kal has been up to since they're super-plugged in to all inside-D.C. celebrity doings.

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Anonymous: So is Kanye West dead or just his career ?

Liz Kelly: I wouldn't count Kanye out yet. Remember, there's no such thing as bad publicity and, if nothing else, the Taylor Swift incident got him some massive exposure. He's well-liked in the music industry, no matter his lapse in manners. So I wouldn't expect him to go away anytime soon.

True story. My mother thinks his name is

Cayenne

West.

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Charlottesville, Va.: Marriage/divorce laws: Vary from state to state. Here in Virginia, you file for divorce in the state where at least one of the parties is a resident and has been for at least six months (a year of there are children involved, I think). It doesn't matter where you were married.

Liz Kelly: Okay, more...

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Diablo Cody: Is no Stephen King. She writes a whiny, self-indulgent column in EW, and compared to King's always interesting EW columns, it is pretty clear who is in this for the long haul.

Liz Kelly: I can't argue with you there. But give her time. She's young and doesn't have the years and years of writing under her belt that Stephen has. What she does possess is creativity and a pretty unique voice.

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Bethesda, Md.: You know Liz, you should probably have some kind of disclaimer prior to viewing Twits. I was completely choked up by the last one re: Jeremy Piven. Why, the thought of him actually dying in a dream as a vision of things to come...wait, never mind, it's Piven. No loss.

Liz Kelly: Nice try.

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Bethesda, Md.: "You must be over the moon about the Glee news: Joss Whedon signed on to direct and episode..."

NOOOOOOOO!

I love "Glee" too.

But, you know what happens to shows on FOX that Joss Whedon is involved with? He needs to stay 50ft away from my Glee at all costs!

Liz Kelly: I know, I know. I think it might have been EW or Gawker that made the observation that Glee will now likely be moved to Friday nights, then canceled.

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To Cut or not to cut: Meg Ryan and Nicole Kidman edition: So both ladies have had work done. Meg appears to have had unfortunate lip and cheek augmentation. Nicole has had much of her face frozen with Botox or God-knows-what.

If the current theory that in Hollywood you have to work on your face to stay relevant/employed -- which is the better option: Cutting until you look like a different person (Meg) or injecting until you look like you are wearing a mask of yourself (Nicole)?

Liz Kelly: Well, if forced to choose at gunpoint, I'd go for the injections. At least you have some hope of it wearing off one day if you decide to stop and go au naturel. That's assuming the toxins in all those concoctions don't kill you first.

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Re:Donnatella's pix: I thought that was a zombie.

Liz Kelly: You may be right.

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David Boreanaz gets the "Ick, Nast" win for the week: So DB not only cheated on his pregnant wife, but called his mistress from the Delivery Room with updates on the birth. Not even Don Draper would sink so low.

Ick, Nast!

Exclusive: David Boreanaz Caught Cheating! (Star, Oct. 21)

Liz Kelly: Ya know, I didn't include that in the Mix this morning because it originates from Star and they aren't always the most reliable. Though, I have to admit, this does look pretty damning.

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For "Not A Lawyer But ...": Uhm, er, if you aren't a lawyer let alone a family lawyer, why are you spouting off?

"... and yes, you have to abide by the laws in which you are married."

Nonsense. Now if CA has jurisdiction because one of them maintains legal residency status (or re-establishes that) and she chooses to file for divorce in CA, and the other doesn't contest the CA jurisdiction, yes. Otherwise ....

Liz Kelly: I'm sorry, can you preface that with "Objection!"?

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Dallas Cowboys Cheerleader workout: Having given Tracey Anderson's video a whirl, do you have any plans to try the Dallas Cowboys Cheerleader video? I did the abs one on Comcast. It's actually pretty good. (Glad this is an anonymous chat.)

Liz Kelly: I didn't know about that one -- I have been doing Gillian Michaels's 30-day shred a few times a week lately. It pretty much kicks my dupa, so I'm thinking it must be doing something. Also, did I mention that at the urging of Mr. Liz, I took up biking? I'm actually loving it... try to do at least 40 miles a week right now and am hoping to work my way up to a 100-mile ride by next fall.

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Capitol Hill celeb testifiers: Other than Michael J. Fox, who could testify with some personal experience and actual knowledge about Parkinson's research, are any of these celebs really taken seriously? How can they be? What on earth do they know that lay(wo)men don't?

Liz Kelly: Well, I suppose one could argue that what they do is help to bring visibility to a cause that might otherwise not get much press or traction in Congress. I mean, would anyone have even known about the shark preservation act if January Jones hadn't visited Congress last month?

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Diablo Cody will continue to work but her celeb factor will wane: It is so unusual for a screenwriter to attain the level of fame she achieved during Juno, I have no doubt she will continue to work -- but it is unlikely she will remain as actor-famous as she was/is.

Liz Kelly: I'm thinking you're right.

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The Ghey Again: Sorry Charlottesville, The Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA) signed by Clinton, means that Virginia or Florida don't have to recognize my MA or CA marriage and don't have to grant me a divorce. Gay divorce like gay marriage is going to be another fight that will play out state by state.

Liz Kelly: That's pretty much the gist of the Huffington Post piece linked above.

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Darien, Conn. -- What is up with these crazy panels on "the Insider"?: Between the Grace/Gosselin smackdown from 2 weeks ago, Marie Osmond/Betheny Frankel and Michael Lohan/NeNe skirmishes from this week -- that show is quickly becoming the go-to place for oil and water combat between D-Listers.

Liz, do you have any suggestions for an ideal panel that would get tongues wagging? (I'm thinking Dina Lohan, Kate Gosselin, Ceasar Milan, and Kathy Griffin's Mom.)

Liz Kelly: Hmm, how about Bronson Pinchot, Richard Hatch and the dog from "Frazier?"

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Not to be picky: But I'm going to be picky, Yes, Diablo has Juno, but I thought the dialogue in that movie was just painful and trying way too hard to be hip. Ellen Page tried really hard to make it look like someone talks like that, but no one does. Stephen King is in his own sphere & has always nailed the voices that come out of his characters.

Liz Kelly: Okay, a dissenting opinion. I can roll with that, home skillet.

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Bad botox or something: You didn't see Garry Shandling on Joy Behar's show last night. His upper lip never moved. I swear, it was like Conan's Crash Cargo sketches.

Liz Kelly: Yeah, Gary Shandling -- who I love -- has got to be the poster child for male celeb plastic surgery gone wrong. Who else would be on that list?

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Gerard Butler is lame: Action flicks aside, how does this guy keep getting work? His SNL stint was bad and his romantic films are horrible.

Liz Kelly: And now there's word that he's dating Jessica Simpson. The horror!

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Is there any way to avoid the Twilight onset for the next month?: I don't think I can handle the entire media work banking their futures on Bella-Jacob-Edward. Anything I can do short of moving to a cabin in the woods until after Thanksgiving?

Liz Kelly: I can promise that I will attempt to keep "Twilight" coverage to a minimum in the blog. So if you're looking for a place to hideout: washingtonpost.com/celebritology.

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Location withheld: This is a serious question to which I do not know the answer, and I hope readers can please advise. It is quasi-celebrity related. They are selling Barack Obama masks in stores, even in neighborhood drug stores. Is it racially insensitive for a white person to wear a Barack Obama mask?

Liz Kelly: Hmmm. My initial reaction is no. Why would it be? He's a well known public figure and wearing a molded rubber mask of his face doesn't strike me as any more egregious than wearing the likeness of Ted Kennedy, Bill Clinton or Dick Cheney -- all of which are readily available at local costume shops.

I think things would be different if one were to attempt the costume using makeup, tho.

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Loved today's twits:: Especially the woman who played John Mayer. With Twits taking off any chance you could link the actor with the celeb on the credits? (And sorry to producer if I accidentally submitted the same Q twice.) Thanks for the chats!

washingtonpost.com: Today's Twits: Episode 7

Liz Kelly: Yep -- actually, the actors are linked with the celebs they played in the blog post featuring each episode. You can read which one is which in today's Twits here.

As for the John Mayer dramatist -- that is the wonderful Annie Mueller, who also previously played Courtney Love.

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King of Bad Plastic Surgery: I thought Kenny Rogers had that title sewed up! Or Botoxed up.

Liz Kelly: Oh, that's right! Thank you. Maybe Rocci can post a before and after shot.

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Mr. Clean lives here: Are you over the guy from the dirty jobs show yet because frankly the thought of some of those jobs makes me ill and I never understood that guys appeal in the first place.

Liz Kelly: Nope, so not over him. Mike Rowe is still in my top 10 list. As long as the guy takes a shower, what's the harm?

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Columbia, Md.: Male plastic surgery gone wrong: Bruce Jenner. He has destroyed his face.

Liz Kelly: True true.

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Not a network programming office, honest: OK, how about this idea for a reality series: Richard Hesse wifeswaps and lives with Octomom?

Liz Kelly: That's all very well, but where does that leave Jon Gosselin? Out in the cold, that's where.

How about this: Hesse, Octomom and Jon Gosselin all locked in an average three-bedroom suburban townhouse with all of their kids?

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Male celeb plastic surgery gone wrong: Mickey Rourke: The Gold Medal winner in this category. (With Kenny Rogers for the silver.)

Liz Kelly: Well, he was helped along by some serious boxing injuries.

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Objection!!: Spouting off is all we do around these parts. I also believe that legitimate factual information may not be included in any Celebritology chat unless accompanied by conjecture, speculation, or a rhyming verse.

Liz Kelly: Good point. Carry on.

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Agree w/Liz: Mask is okay, Blackface is NOT: Dude, AVOID brown foundation at all costs.

Liz Kelly: Okay, one vote for my rightness.

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Do entertainers publicly spouting their love for a show, usually result in a guest spot or role?: For example will Snoop Dogg's inclusion of a "True Blood" plug to his album, and when asked about it he said he wants to be on the show, result in an invite? Does this stuff work?

Snoop (EW.com)

Liz Kelly: Maybe he could play Lafayette's boyfriend.

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Scariest Actor presence: Michael Emerson: Okay he hasn't done a lot lately b/c of "Lost" but his run as the serial killer the team got acquitted on "The Practice" was seriously chilling.

Liz Kelly: Good one -- Emerson definitely does creepy well. I was just watching a season 3 episode earlier this morning -- for today's 3 p.m. Lost chat (ahem) -- and actually got physically upset by Emerson's portrayal of Ben. He was terrorizing a fluffy white rabbit. I was verklempt.

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Twit-ville: Can you please make more Twit episodes like Episode 3? That is the bestest one. The Barbara Walters and Miley Cyrus readings make me tear up with laughter each time.

Keep it up!

Liz Kelly: We'll do our best. Thanks for the kind words.

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New York, NY: Liz, the dog from Frasier died three years ago.

Frasier's dog Eddie dies aged 16 (BBC News, June 28, 2006)

Does the fact that I remember that make me crazy or just a really good celebritologist?

Liz Kelly: Well then it would make the panel that much more interesting, wouldn't it?

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Bratislava: I had no idea "dup " was a word in common usage! How delightful because it brings back such memories of the old country. My first husband was a big, fat dupa!

Liz Kelly: My mom is Ukrainian and Slovak, so "dupa" was used pretty liberally around my house growing up.

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Plastic Surgery: I think Madonna is gross looking. Plastic surgery or working out too much. Yuck.

Liz Kelly: Honestly, I don't think Madge looks so bad. But that's just me.

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Jeff Goldblum is 57 today?! That guys is well preserved.: He could easily pass for 45 -- I'll have whatever he's having!

Liz Kelly: Wasn't he dating an Olsen twin a few years back? Ick.

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Attempted weapons possession?: Just want to thank 'Lil Wayne for the breaking news before the chat. Although, I'm not entirely sure how one can plead guilty to attempting to possess a firearm. Any thoughts on how he might do behind bars -- and after?

washingtonpost.com: Lil Wayne pleads to attempted gun possession (AP, Oct. 22)

Liz Kelly: If he even makes it to jail, I'm sure he'll do fine. He isn't skedded to be sentenced until February, though, so he has some time to try to whittle down that punishment.

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Jillian Michaels: Oooh, try her Boost Metabolism. The single hardest workout I've ever done. 50 minutes of hell. And she uses models who look like they've eaten in the past week.

Liz Kelly: See, what I like about the Shred is that each workout is only 20 minutes. It's hard to talk oneself out of doing a 20-minute workout. My interior monologue usually goes something like this: "If you can't take 20 minutes to exercise you are a huge loser." It works.

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TB plug might work for Snoop, but it didn't for LiLo: Remember a few months ago when she posted fang pictures of herself to Twitter or MySpace or somewhere accompanied with a publicist's plug on how much she loves "True Blood"? I don't think it resulted in any invite for her.

Liz Kelly: No, but she is Lilo, after all.

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Worst male plastic surgery: Hello?!? Have we forgotten Michael Jackson so quickly? And he is followed by Burt Reynolds.

Liz Kelly: My god -- you've brought us all to our senses. How quickly we forget. Indeed, Jacko wears the surgery crown.

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Barack Obama Mask: It's all about Context.

Mask while wearing a suit? OK.

Mask while holding a bucket of fried chicken and a 2 Liter of Grape Soda? NOT OK.

Liz Kelly: Well, of course.

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Ageless: Is it just me, or does Lorne Michaels of SNL truly not age from year to year?

Liz Kelly: Well, if he doesn't, SNL must be bearing the brunt of it -- because after watching Saturday's Gerard Butler-hosted episode, I have to say SNL was looking pretty pretty tired. Even the opening sketch -- the Rock Obama -- was sans laughs. Painful even. And The Rock is usually funny.

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Washington, D.C. : People who live in Washington need to remember that most people don't live in Washington. I have friends who seriously struggle to name the secretary of state so yes, Nicki and her lovely Botox testifying on the state of this that and the other would make their little celeb-loving ears perk right up and hear about an issue they would otherwise ignore if laywoman testified on the Hill. I aint sayen it's right, or that we're the only ones paying attention, but for a lot of people celebs can have some pull.

Liz Kelly: Good point. Somewhere in a Moose Lodge people are taking a break from planning their spring crops to talk about Hollywood violence. We can thank Nicole Kidman for that.

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Liz Kelly: Alrighty -- time for me to dash over to the "Lost" chat. See you here next week -- same time, same place. And, of course, in the blog every day.

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