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Bill Gates Deposition Transcript Second ReleaseOn Monday, November 9, the government released portions of a videotaped deposition of Microsoft CEO Bill Gates taken for the U.S. v. Microsoft antitrust trial. Full text of the deposition portions are below. Editor's Note: There may be errors in the text resulting from the scanning process. [An audio and video feed is available. In addition, the transcript and video clips from the first release on November 2 are also available.]
Q: Did Microsoft make any effort to convince Intel not to help Sun and Java?
Q: Did you or anyone at Microsoft attempt to convince Intel not to engage in any software activity? MR. HEINER: Objection. THE WITNESS: No. End of segment.
Q: BY MR. BOIES: Did you or, to your knowledge, anyone at Microsoft try to convince Intel that it should not engage in any software activity unless Microsoft was involved in that activity?
Q: And what did that lead you to ask Intel to do?
End of segment.
Q: Did you or, insofar as you're aware, anyone else at Microsoft tell people at Intel that they should leave the software side of the PC business entirely to Microsoft?
Q: Did you or insofar as you are aware or anyone else at Microsoft tell representatives of Intel that their software activities were inconsistent with cooperation between Intel and Microsoft?
Q: Other than the specific software that would not work on Windows 95 that Intel was working on, did you or, insofar as you are aware, anyone else at Microsoft tell Intel representatives that the software work that Intel was doing was inconsistent with cooperation between Intel and Microsoft?
Q: Incompatibilities between what and what?
Q: And did you tell them that that software also was not consistent with cooperation between Microsoft and Intel?
End of segment.
Q: Did you, Mr. Gates, personally ever express concern to Mr. Grove that Intel's software work was beginning to overlap with Microsoft's software work?
Q: Why was that a concern?
Q: Were they harmful to any goal that Microsoft had?
Q: Is it your testimony that your only concern with what Intel was doing in the software area was a concern to avoid negative user experiences?
Q: Which, according to you, would lead to negative user experiences; correct?
Q: Did you or, insofar as you are aware, anybody at Microsoft ever tell Intel representatives in words or in substance that they should stick to hardware and leave the software to Microsoft? MR. HEINER: objection. THE WITNESS: I'm sure there were times when we were frustrated about the quality and incompatibility problems created about their software where someone might have expressed that sentiment in an extreme feeling about how tough it had been for Intel to do quality work that would have advanced any Intel goal. End of segment.
BY MR. BOIES: Were you aware of any work that Intel was doing relating to Internet software development?
Q: Did you ever express any concern to anyone at Intel, or to your knowledge, did anyone at Microsoft ever express any concern to anyone at Intel concerning Intel's Internet, software work, if any?
Q: And if they did, I take it it's your testimony no one ever told you about it?
End of segment.
Q: Did you ask Intel to keep you apprised of what software work Intel was doing?
Q: Is it your testimony that they refused to keep you apprised of the software work they were doing?
End of segment.
Q: When is the last time that you asked Intel to keep you apprised of what software work they were doing?
Q: Approximately when?
Q: Was it within the last year?
Q: Was it within the last three years?
Q: Did you or others, to your knowledge, from Microsoft tell Intel that if Intel began to compete with Microsoft, Microsoft 'would be forced to begin to compete with Intel?
Q: Not at all, sir; never said that in his words or in substance?
Q: If anybody had said that, would you consider that to be inconsistent with company policy? MR. HEINER: Objection. THE WITNESS: I'm confused. Intel and Microsoft are not in the same businesses, so there's no policy about one of our people suggesting that we're going to go into the chip business. Q: BY MR. BOIES: Was it part of what you wanted to accomplish, Mr. Gates, to be to keep Intel and Microsoft in separate businesses?
Q: Did you ever take any action intended to accomplish that?
End of segment.
Q: Did you or, to your knowledge, anyone from Microsoft ever tell people at Intel that Microsoft would hold up support for Intel's microprocessors if Intel didn't cooperate with Microsoft in areas that Microsoft wanted Intel's cooperation in?
End of segment.
Q: Did you or others on behalf of Microsoft tell Intel that Microsoft would hold up support for Intel's microprocessors if Intel did not govt cooperate with Microsoft?
Q: No one ever told Intel that, to your knowledge?
End of segment.
Q: Did you, Mr. Gates, ever yourself try to get Intel to reduce its support of Netscape?
Q: You may mean that to answer my question, but I want to be clear. It is your testimony that you're not aware of any instance where you asked anybody at Intel to reduce the support that Intel was providing to Netscape; is that your testimony?
End of segment. An video and audio feed is available on C-SPAN.
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