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The Chat House
Tony Kornheiser and Michael Wilbon
Washington Post Sports Columnists

Monday, June 16, 2003; 1:30 p.m ET

Sports talk time in The Chat House!

Tony Kornheiser and Michael Wilbon joined you to talk sports. It all happened right here in The Chat House.

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Tony Kornheiser and Michael Wilbon: Good afternoon everyone and welcome back to The Chat House. How's everyone doing? Just waiting for TK and Mike to get here. Mike is on his way back from TX so I think he'll be doing some of the show via phone... stand by for a sec. And I'll get the link from last week's show up soon. Thanks. --Mary

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Lanham, MD: Hey Mike . . . Don't you think you are being a bit harsh on Kenyon Martin? He put up good number in last year's Finals AND in Games 1 thru 4 in this year's Finals! It is more than obvious that the flu bothered Kenyon in Games 5 & 6. Duncan, Robinson, or Shaq did not easily block his shots when he was healthy like last night! He does not have the option of calling in sick when the same ailments that affect us, affect him as well. He should be applauded for not using the flu as an excuse or crutch. On the other hand, Van Horn disappeared in last year's AND this year's playoffs!

Tony Kornheiser and Michael Wilbon: Hi everyone. If Kenyon Martion was still suffering from the flu or something like it last night, then perhaps I was too harsh. But in listening to Kenyon himself and other team officials, there was nothing to indicate he was still suffering from the flu. I understand he was suffering from it Thursday and all of Friday, but by Sunday night? Even if he wasn't feeling well and even if he shot poorly, there are other parts of the game. I'm talking about effort, not results. And, maybe Keith Van Horn wasn't feeling great last year in a couple of games that he played poorly. See, this is the problem when you run your mouth as much as Martin does and when you run a teammate out of town. Now, I'm not saying that Horn shouldn't have been traded. I'm not even saying there weren't some elements of truth to what Martin said. But once you make that public criticism...once you throw that stone, you'd better make sure you're not living in a glass house. --Mike

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Los Angeles: Guys, wondering what your thoughts are on two words, Tiger and Slump. Here are mine:
The definition of "slump" seems to be different for Tiger. It's like people are afraid to use that word with him, because he's so good, and whenever he wins, people say, "See, he really wasn't in a slump." But when a guy who a year ago at this time had all four majors at once, and since then has gone 0 for 4, that has to be a slump. It may not be a slump for anyone else on the planet, but I think that has to be a slump for Tiger. And if he wins the British Open, it won't mean that he wasn't slumping; it'll mean that the slump is over.

Tony Kornheiser and Michael Wilbon: This is stupid. Plain stupid. So if he had won the Grand Slam this year, would it have been a slump if he didn't win it every year? Clearly you didn't participate in sports in any meaningful level, including Little League. If winning 6 of the last 13 Majors is a slump, then you and I better find one really quick. --Mike

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Bethesda: Please, please, please tell me that Abe has a master plan. Please?

Tony Kornheiser and Michael Wilbon: Hell no he doesn't have a master plan. If he was going to have one now, why hasn't he had one for the last 20 years? Having said that, it's not like there aren't good GM and coaching candidates available b/c there are. Are they big name stars, the kinds of people that Tony would insist on hiring? No, unless you count Mike Dunleavy as a big star. But master plan? If you've got a master plan after 20 years of failure, why wouldn't you have called on it long before now? Long before missing the playoffs all but once in the last 15 years? --Mike

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Arlington, VA: Do either of you jimmies have a take on Roger Clemens demanding he go to the Hall of Fame as a Yankee? I'll always think of him as a fat, choke artist with Boston.

Tony Kornheiser and Michael Wilbon: Fat, choke artist? 6 Cy Youngs and 300 victories and counting? So, who do you think is a good pitcher? I don't care what he goes in as, but I understand his identification w/the Yankees and the Hall of Fame committee is going to have to address this issue now that great players bounce around so much concerning what team affiliation they have on their plaque. Maybe the simplest answer is to put no logo on the cap or make a plaque w/out a cap. --Mike

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Boston, Mass.: Hey, guys. Enjoy your work. What did you think of the quality of last night's game, and how entertained were you? The world's still complaining that the game was dull, and adding that the Spurs are probably the worst champions of all time. When will the Spurs get credit for beating some of the best teams in the West, including the Lakers with Kobe and Shaq on the floor? I'm afraid, as Barkley said earlier this season, that Duncan and Popovich will never get the respect they deserve. Sacramento even gets more, and they haven't won anything yet. Thanks a lot.

Tony Kornheiser and Michael Wilbon: I thought last night's game was good. I thought it was fairly well played, and that's the only game of the 6 I would make that statement about. I'm not looking at these games to be entertained for the same way fans are looking to be entertained. For instance, I enjoy more defense than most fans so defensive struggles are not unattractive to me. But I also like those Dallas-Sacramento and Dallas-San Antonio games which were full of offense. New Jersey just doesn't have enough shooters to score against a team that can employ an effective zone defense. In some ways, given San Antonio's defensive prowess, we should have seen this coming. --Mike

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Boston, Mass.: Hey, guys. Enjoy your work. What did you think of the quality of last night's game, and how entertained were you? The world's still complaining that the game was dull, and adding that the Spurs are probably the worst champions of all time. When will the Spurs get credit for beating some of the best teams in the West, including the Lakers with Kobe and Shaq on the floor? I'm afraid, as Barkley said earlier this season, that Duncan and Popovich will never get the respect they deserve. Sacramento even gets more, and they haven't won anything yet. Thanks a lot.

Tony Kornheiser and Michael Wilbon: I thought last night's game was good. I thought it was fairly well played, and that's the only game of the 6 I would make that statement about. I'm not looking at these games to be entertained for the same way fans are looking to be entertained. For instance, I enjoy more defense than most fans so defensive struggles are not unattractive to me. But I also like those Dallas-Sacramento and Dallas-San Antonio games which were full of offense. New Jersey just doesn't have enough shooters to score against a team that can employ an effective zone defense. In some ways, given San Antonio's defensive prowess, we should have seen this coming. --Mike

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Tony Kornheiser and Michael Wilbon: Hang on one sec folks. Mike is getting off his cell, pulling into the garage and will be literally in The Chat House w/us shortly. --Mary

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Washington, D.C.: Tony, in my opinion, is right about the lack of "young stars" in the NBA finals that should supposedly draw viewers and ratings. However, its the "old star" that made me watch last night. Just wanted to make public my admiration for the Admiral. What a great way to end his career (If only MJ had... well, you know.)

Tony Kornheiser and Michael Wilbon: Yes, it was a great ending for David Robinson, but the lack of Shaq and Kobe forced it to be watched by only half of the amount of people who watched last year. And listen to this: NBA ratings are down 67 percent from Jordan's last championship. So whether David Stern wants to admit it or not, the NBA is in real trouble w/out recognizable stars who can pull in casual viewers like Magic, Bird and Jordan did. --Tony

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New York, NY: Tony-
Grew up in ALexandria reading your columns with my Dad. Gave him your new book yesterday...he loved it. Just wanted to say thanks...

Tony Kornheiser and Michael Wilbon: Thank you. --Tony

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San Marcos, TX: Mr. Satchmo,

My wife Lazy Susan bought me a copy of
"I'm Back for More Cash" this weekend.
When I told her that you had signed
copies in the past, she asked if you were
still doing so now. If you are, what do we
need to do to "get it done?"

Tony Kornheiser and Michael Wilbon: Send it to PTI and I'll happily sign it for you. --Tony

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Adelphi, Md: Where would you rank Tim Duncan's effort last night in terms of NBA championship-game winning performances?

Tony Kornheiser and Michael Wilbon: Below Magic Johnson's as a rookie, above most everyone else w/the obvious exceptions of some Jordan games and some Bird games, some Julius Irving games in the ABA. Duncan scored 21, had at least 10 assists for at least 20 more points and his 8 block shots cost NJ at least 10 points. So do the math. It was a spectacular performance. He and Robinson together had more rebounds than the entire Nets team. That's why Duncan is the MVP of the league. --Tony

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Sigh...Lifelong DC'er....: I'm not sure I want to ask this question, as I'm 42 and remember the years when the Bullets were championship caliber and the Redskins were in 4 Super Bowls in 10 years (winning 3!) and the Caps...um, well...never mind.

Just how forlorn is this city in regard to professional sports? It wasn't that long ago that the mere mention of Sacramento or Tampa Bay conjured up images of losers. I mean, the Kings and the Clippers went head to head to see who was the real butt, and TB for years was the posterchild of Gawdawful. What do folks outside the Beltway think when Washington is mentioned? Have we become the trendy laughingstock?

Tony Kornheiser and Michael Wilbon: Well, the University of Maryland winning the NCAA a couple of seasons ago helped a lot, but the Redskins have been mediocre for almost a decade and the Bullets are horrendous. No one really cares about the Caps. So I put Washington at the moment in the bottom 15 or 20 percent of sports cities in America. Maybe the bottom 10 percent. But, Atlanta will ALWAYS be under Washington as a sports city and so will Miami b/c in those cities nobody cares. --Tony

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Leesburg, Va.: Love the Chat House guys - thanks for continuing to do it. Which sports columnists do you read regularly or would recommend reading outside of the Post crew? Also, what is the likelihood of Doc Rivers coming to Washington? I've read reports that he is unhappy with management in Orlando.

Tony Kornheiser and Michael Wilbon: I can't imagine Doc Rivers coming to Washington. You don't leave Tracy McGrady. He's the kind of player who can get you to the playoffs every year and Washington doesn't have anyone like that. I no longer read other columnists, but if I did I would read Mike Lupica in the Daily News, Bob Ryan in the Boston Globe and Mitch Albom in the Detroit Free Press. They are all my friends. --Tony

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Washington, D.C.: Tony -- I went to an auction for the Kidney foundation last friday and they were auctioning a sit-down with you during your radio show. I had to leave early but do you know what the final bid was?

Tony Kornheiser and Michael Wilbon: I have no idea. I often welcome people to the radio show providing they promise not to talk, but now that we've moved the show out of the ESPN Zone and to WTEM in an industrial park in Silver Spring, I'm hoping no one wants to go there. --Tony

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East Meadow, N.Y.: Now that the N.B.A. Finals are finished, I know both of you will be taking some vacation time this summer from the television show. How do you guys plan to spend your time off?

Tony Kornheiser and Michael Wilbon: I'm just going to sleep and have doctor's appointments. I'm sure I will be diagnosed w/something terrible. And then I'll go out and play golf at local courses where people will welcome me and not be offended when I shoot 94. --Tony

BTW, Chat House takes a summer vacation too. No shows in July or August. --Mary

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Milan, IN: Guys,

What are your thoughts on Vijay Singh’s treatment by the fans at the Open? Did the spectators step over the line or did Vijay merely reap what he sowed?

Tony Kornheiser and Michael Wilbon: Vijay got heckled once or twice. What the hell is that? You ever see what happens to Shaq when he gets on the foul line. I mean, really. What is Vijay a 5 yr old? What he said about Annika was his right to say, but are you telling me that a couple of hecklers caused him to go plus-12 in his last 21 holes? What a choke job that was. He and Nick Price were gagging all over themselves. --Tony

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Bethesda, MD: Len Shapiro doesn't post an email address so I thought I would tell you this story and, perhaps, you can relay it to him.

My wife was Pete Wysocki's studio partner in college. When she moved here in the early '80s and saw Pete on one of those old Redskin tv shows she was very excited, but was always too shy to contact him. She knew little about his athletic career. other than that he played on the school team, but remembered what a gifted painter he was and, of course, how he was the funniest person she ever met.

When I met Pete at a charity function many years later and told him the story, he was unbelievably excited to hear that someone remembered him for his painting. I know Len has mentioned his painting in his articles, but I don't think Pete had returned to it yet.

I don't think the Post obit did justice with regard to his great success as a leasing broker downtown, but that a special teams player made the front of the sports page in an "appreciation" article is quite a tribute.

Tony Kornheiser and Michael Wilbon: Thank you very much. I worked w/Pete on one of those Redskin-O-Rama shows in the mid-80's. He was one of the funniest, stand around people I ever knew and very successful in the pursuit of a full and varied life. --Tony

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Manassas, VA: Hi, Mary. What's the deal? Same problem as last week, where, if you ask to get new responses, you don't get them. And its not just this chat, but all the other discussions as well. I know Desson Howell answered more than 2 questions, yet if you look at his transcript, that looks like all he answered. And, I know that Howard Kurtz starts right on time and answers tons of questions, yet I couldn't access his chat for at least 20 mins. and still didn't get all his questions/answers. Help!

Tony Kornheiser and Michael Wilbon: Hey Manassas, sorry. We have new software and so we are working out some kinks. My advice is hit the refresh button on your browser, not on the chat page and you should see the responses. --Mary

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Springfield, Va.: Hey, Tony, I'm local so if I buy a book, can't you just meet me somewhere to get it signed?

Tony Kornheiser and Michael Wilbon: Send it to me at PTI and I'll sign it for you. Or bring it by. --Tony

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G'burg, MD: Did you guys see the "movie preview" halftime of Game 6?? That was the worst thing I've seen in a while. Can I get some analysis of the first half, sheesh! I turned it off when they got to The Hulk. What about you guys?

Tony Kornheiser and Michael Wilbon: Ok folks, we have to go. One more chat for the summer... next Monday. And then we are on summer vacation (Mike takes July off, Tony takes August off).... so we'll be back at the end of August so get your must-answer questions in next week. Enjoy the rest of your day and thanks for your patience w/the software. --The Chat House

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