There's a consortium of government agencies dicussing what kind of television system the American people will have and should have, so they can coordinate their plans, and what they see is that a lot of message movement will replace people movement.

"In other words, people won't have to go to the office every day because they'll be able to have a face-to-face conference through the television system - the home and the office on split-screen so people can see each other. Instead of going places, you're going to have these 'meetings.'

"The post office is counting on the notion that a lot of electronic message movement will replace pieces of paper going back and forth. The banking business is assuming that a lot of stuff will be handled not by the flow of paper but by the flow of credit messages through television.

"I think in the 1980s, we'll have a combination of the home screen, plus computer printout, all connected by optical fiber. This will mean that you will shop by television, take exams by television - there's no reason why you can't answer questions with push buttons - and so on. All these things have been predicted and they're possible, and I think they'll probably happen. You'll get your income tax forms that way, through the television system. And so on.

"Now all these things are things that I see developing enormous psychological problems. Because all these devices are designed by the people who love gadgets and who don't like people very much. The upshot of it all is that people should stay home, in front of the screen, and not clog the highways by traveling and not complicate commuter problems by going to the office, and so on.

"There will be special channels for this and special channels for that and I've wondered, will there be a special channel for 'Approved Revolutionary Activity?' I am reminded of a college president who was saying to the student body, 'We recognize your right to dissent, and we will issue you a list of approved topics.' When you've got the whole nation wired up through optical fiber like that, with special channels for various purposes, there'll be one channel that's a kind of Hyde Park corner. That's the way I visualize it.

"Will there be more dependence on television? I don't see any escape from it. Movies will survive, I think, because teen-agers will still have to get out of the house. I think the meeting hall will survive for various purposes, including movies."