Kenneth Madden is a pop with pizzaz.

That's the opinion of his children, Brian, 14, and Kevin, 12, who say the 37-year-old Madden's job as their dad is tougher than his job as a sergeant in the Arlington County police department.

"He's got a lot to do keeping us occupied," says Brian. "He's always got something planned. He gives us almost all of his spare time."

"He's got spirit and spunk," adds Kevin.

"A mother can only do so much," Madden's wife, Kathleen, says.

"The time he devotes to the children is really wonderful."

The kids say Dad is a bit strict. His "new thing," they say, is a form of punishment designed to replace the spankings for which they are getting too old. "He charges us," says Kevin. "He takes our money, and that's worse than punishment."

"But we're pretty good kids," Brian insists.

"Yeah, the model children," Kevin adds.

The boys sometimes worry about their father's job. "When I was leaving just now," Madden says, "my son was checking to see if I was wearing the bullet-proof vest." He was.

"It's often easier to do something for yourself than for your kids, but you can't put them off." "You can't wait until they're 17, then you'll be asking them to spend time with you." On Father's Day, father and sons will go on a 20-mile bike ride through Washington.

So what does Father's Day really mean to the Madden boys?

"Just being thankful that we have him," Kevin explains.

"He's the perfect dad to us."