In the video above, CNN’s Soledad O’Brien and Tony Perkins of the Family Research Council battle to a draw. Until the 7:00 mark, that is, when O’Brien pushes Perkins on equal rights and prohibitions on gay marriage. Perkins responds, “Everyone has the same rights.” Anyone who’s ever watched O’Brien knew that wasn’t going to go unchallenged. ”Let me stop you there — forgive me....,” she said. How is it that there’s equality of one group can get married and another cannot? O’Brien asked. Perkins came back with this: “There’s restrictions on who you can marry now. You can’t marry a close relative, you can’t marry someone who’s already married.”