A sign posted on the door of the USDA- National Resource Conservation Services office informs patrons they are closed due to the government shutdown in West Bend, Wis.,Tuesday, Oct. 1, 2013.The political stalemate in Washington that has triggered the first government shutdown in 17 years. (AP Photo/West Bend Daily News, John Ehlke) This sign is from two weeks ago, you guys. (John Elke/AP Photo/West Bend Daily News)


Presumably now everyone’s had their government shutdown fun, and we all had a good laugh about how silly Congress is being and how government employees are getting paid to do nothing, ha ha, what a crazy system we have, here click on this article. But now it’s serious times, and for real, we need to have a government again before something really crazy happens. Okay, guys? Guys?

PostScript assumes silence means acceptance on behalf of our esteemed legislators. So while they’re working on that, let’s take a look at the comments to E.J. Dionne Jr.’s column about the political hay President Obama could make from the shutdown. The tea party has managed to sell Obama’s agenda way better than he and the Democrats ever could! Obamacare, despite having a terrible rollout, is MORE popular than it was weeks ago, because the tea party members keep doing things like protesting their own shutdown and waving giant Confederate flags around.

So, Dionne says, Obama has to fight now to enact more of the agenda that’s been stalled in Congress. Ask for more stuff he wants, like infrastructure investment, etc., while the obstructionists look terrible and people really, really wish they had a better government that did real things.

But, commenters argue, wouldn’t fighting and pushing make Obama into a radical extremist of the kind the public don’t like? This exchange illustrates the argument:


We need to go on the warpath here. We are being too nice. Republicans like to act all hurt and petulant when they are accurately described. Well, I say escalate. You Republicans want to get out of this mess you made? It’s time for you to pay, or stew in your own juices.


[FergusonFoont] just proves that the left are no different morally than the tea party. People’s lives are being affected here Fergie, in case you didn’t notice.

That’s an interesting argument. Obama’s current power is in his reasonableness and the perception that he’s not the one driving a political agenda. On the other hand, it’s not like he has to save up his political capital for reelection.

Here’s an exchange over that idea:


The Republican Party wants to keep taking our country hostage every few months. It is time for President Obama, Harry Reid, John McCain, and Mitch McConnell to tell the Tea Party to sit down and shut up and let the grownups take over.


Grownups listen and consider what the minority want. Not too many grownups on this board.

And wakamow thinks tea party unpopularity doesn’t make Obama’s agenda more popular than it was:

The radical elements in the Republican Party (Tea Partiers) fail to understand a very basic concept. Most Americans are opposed to Big Government, but they have a common respect for our system of government. This means they abhor the actions of one party, in one house of Congress, shutting down the government or threatening to default on our debt obligations in an insane attempt at blackmail.

To win this one, Obama will have to use his newfound  popularity to stop the tea party, even if it’s the source of all his new popularity. Whoa.