As a part of their new Campaign 2012 series, the Brookings Institution’s Michael O’Hanlon talks with Ben Wittes about Pakistan and Afghanistan and how the two countries--and U.S. policy toward them--will factor into the 2012 election cycle.

“I don’t think we can go so far as to treat Pakistan as a hostile state,” says O’Hanlon, adding that,“if we do, we’ve already lost the game in Afghanistan.”

According to O’Hanlon, Pakistan’s compliance with U.S. requests is a mixed bag. “Right now, they sort of work against us a third of the time, work with us a third of the time and look the other way a third of the time,” said O’Hanlon.