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What would it take to shoot down MH17?

This untranslated news broadcast of the Russia-24 television channel shows the wreckage of Malaysia Airlines Flight MH17 in eastern Ukraine, which may have been shot down by an antiaircraft missile. (Reuters)

By now images of the smoldering wreckage of Malaysian flight 17 have started to circulate online and on television. The aircraft, a Boeing-777 with 295 people aboard, was on a routine flight from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur when it unexpectedly dropped off radar. Moments later it crashed near Donetsk in eastern Ukraine.

How did MH17 crash? Due to the ongoing conflict in eastern Ukraine many have already speculated that the aircraft was shot down.

To bring down a commercial airliner at cruising altitude would require advanced anti-air missile systems. Among the easiest systems to employ would be man-portable air-defense systems, known as MANPADS. But some experts ruled out that possibility.

“First off, a MANPAD did not shoot down that airliner,” a former Marine Special Operations member trained in air defense systems said. “A MANPADS original purpose is for low-flying aircraft with high-heat signatures.”

“Like helicopters,” he added.

MANPADS have been known to target commercial aircraft — but usually only during takeoff and landing, when the jets are moving the slowest and are the most vulnerable. A DHL transport plane was struck by an SA-14, a type of MANPAD, shortly after departing  Baghdad international airport in 2003.

“MANPADS don’t have the fuel to continue tracking a fast moving target at high altitude,” said the special operations member, who spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak publicly.

Pro-Russian separatists have denied allegations that they brought down the aircraft, saying they lack weapons systems that would be able to target an airliner at a cruising altitude near 30,000 ft. At the same time, rebels in eastern Ukraine claimed that they had shot down a Ukrainian transport plane earlier this week. That plane, an AN-26, was shot down at 21,000 ft, according to U.S. officials. Three crew members were killed.

Both Russia and Ukraine have moved advanced air defense systems near their borders in recent months, including the SA-17 Buk 2. The SA-17, known to NATO countries as the “Grizzly,” is an advanced iteration of the SA-11 “Gadfly” and is fielded by a number of countries.

The SA-17 is a surface-to-air missile system that can be fired from either a wheeled or a tracked chassis and can engage aircraft at anywhere from altitudes of roughly 32 feet to 78,000 feet, putting flight MH17 easily within range.

The SA-17 guides its missiles via a radar array, unlike MANPADS, which mostly use a heat signature for guidance.

Flight MH17 was a Boeing 777-200, with a wingspan of 199 feet, while the AN-26, the aircraft shot down Monday in eastern Ukraine, has a wingspan of 99 feet.

“To a radar operator, the two aircraft might look similar,” said Navy Pilot Lt. James Swiggart, who has flown early-warning aircraft.

However, Swiggart explained, advanced surface-to-air systems like the SA-17 are transponder aware, meaning they can detect if they are targeting an airliner. Civilian airlines are constantly broadcasting a four-digit transponder, known as an IFF code, that designates aircraft as civilian. The code would be detected by the SA-17 if the weapons system attempted to lock on or “paint” MH17.

“It’s easy to tell the difference between a civilian aircraft or not, if you’re a skilled radar operator,” Swiggart said. “There’s really no excuse to shoot down an airliner unless you were trying to.”

Swiggart added that airliners fly well-established routes at regulated speeds. And while military aircraft have an advanced warning system in case they are being targeted by anti-aircraft missiles, civilian aircraft have no such device.

“They would have had no idea,” Swiggart said.

This video shows the flight path of Malaysia Airlines Flight MH17 according to the airline flight tracking website (

An earlier version of this post incorrectly said the Ukrainian transport plane that crashed earlier this week was a IL-76. The post has been updated.



Thomas Gibbons-Neff is a staff writer and a former Marine infantryman.



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