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Why this black defender of the Confederate flag says slavery was ‘a choice’

Karen Cooper defends the Confederate flag in the documentary, “Battle Flag.” (Video: Battle Flag)

For many Americans, the Confederate battle flag is an unmistakable symbol of slavery and oppression.

But for Karen Cooper, a black woman who was born in New York but later settled in Virginia, the flag embodies something else entirely.

“I actually think that it represents freedom,” the ardent tea party supporter says in a video interview that’s been making the rounds online. “It represents a people who stood up to tyranny.”

[I am a black South Carolinian. Here’s why I support the Confederate flag.]

Cooper is a member of the Virginia Flaggers, an activist group that rejects the idea that the Confederate flag is a symbol of racism and hate.

The group was formed in response to a decision to remove Confederate flags from public view in several locations, including a Confederate memorial chapel on the grounds of the Virginia Museum of Fine Arts in Richmond and city light poles in Lexington, The Washington Post’s Susan Svrluga reported last year.

Like the rest of the Flaggers’ 40 or so members, Cooper feels pride and reverence each time she displays the flag in public.

If the flag was a racist symbol, Cooper argues in the video, she wouldn’t be an accepted member of a group composed primarily of white Southerners.

The Confederate flag on display, from 1938 to today

WASHINGTON, DC- JUNE 21: A confederate flag reflected in the window of a gift shop that sells them in Seligman, Arizona. The Confederate flag (aka the Rebel Flag) can be seen in plain view in almost any part of the United States although sightings are more common in the South. Michael S. Williamson/The Washington Post)

“I’m not advocating slavery or think that, you know, it was right,” she says. “It wasn’t, and none of my friends think it was. It was just something that happened. It didn’t just happen in the South, it happened worldwide.”

Besides, she adds, slavery is “a choice.”

“I say that because of what Patrick Henry said: ‘Give me liberty or give me death.’ To me, if we had went back to that kind of slavery, no I couldn’t do it. Give me death.”

The video is part of “Battle Flag,” which is billed as “an ongoing documentary about the place and meaning of the Confederate battle flag, 150 years after the Civil War.”

Confederate memorials and the flags that often accompany them have faced renewed scrutiny following the racially motivated shooting in Charleston, S.C., that left nine parishioners dead in a historic African American church this month. Across the country, statues memorializing Confederate dead have been mocked and defaced as pressure mounts to remove what many view as enduring symbols of white supremacy.

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While black Americans are assumed to be uniformly opposed to the Confederate flag flying over government buildings, polls of Southern blacks suggest opinions about the flag are more complicated.

A 2014 Winthrop University poll found that 61 percent of black South Carolina residents said the flag should no longer fly on the state house grounds, The Post’s Aaron Blake reported last week. And yet, 27 percent of black South Carolinians said it should stay — suggesting that the flag’s meaning remains a source of some debate.

Byron Thomas, an African American student at the University of South Carolina, understands why people hate the Confederate flag, but he told CNN that he doesn’t feel like the symbol is racially offensive to him, even after alleged Charleston shooter Dylann Roof was photographed posing with the flag.

“Dylann decided to use his Confederate flag for racism,” he said. “My Confederate flag that I own I do not use for racism.”

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Thomas said he hung the flag in his dorm room at the University of South Carolina Beaufort to honor an ancestor who was a cook for a South Carolina regiment during the Civil War. When the university protested, Thomas fought back and eventually won.

Like other black defenders of the Confederate flag, Thomas argues that the symbol was stolen by hate groups, leading to its banishment from many public settings. Taking down the flag, he argues, is the same as letting the racists win.

“I’m entitled to my beliefs and how I choose to use a symbol,” he wrote last week in an opinion piece for The Post. My Confederate flag isn’t racist; after all, I am black. I’m also an American who strongly believes in the constitutional right to free speech.”

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Courtney Daniels — a black Birmingham, Ala., native and Marine — argues that the Confederate flag and its “gorgeous colors” were hijacked by “a few cowards in bedsheets,” obscuring its rich history.

“I revere it as a son of the South in a way that would confuse those on the outside looking in, who by the way are not entitled to commentary on which flag waves in our humid Southern breeze,” he wrote in the Birmingham News opinion pages last week.

Daniels noted that he didn’t always support the flag. He grew up believing that the flag was a symbol a racism until he started researching Civil War history and eventually concluded that he had “foolishly labeled every white person sporting the flag as a racist.” It is not the South, but northern cities like Philadelphia and New York, he argues, in which black Americans are defined by their skin tone.

“In the South, we mingle,” he writes. “We play. We do like Willie Mays and ‘say hey’ no matter the color of the person sitting on the porch. I walk into my local grocery with my daughter and like the tick of the clock, I know I can count on an endearing ‘Hey baby doll, you need some help?’ from the attendant whose skin heavily contrasts mine.”

In Asheville, N.C., last week, hours after “Black Lives Matter” graffiti appeared on a monument commemorating the state’s Civil War governor Zebulon Vance, an African American man stood nearby with a Confederate flag, defending it to anybody who would listen, according to NBC affiliate WYFF.

It was H.K. Edgerton, described by the station as “one of few African-American members of the Sons of Confederate Veterans.” Fox affiliate WGHP said Edgerton is a former NAACP chapter president who “is known for his love of the Confederate flag and protesting in favor of it.”

“Black folks earned a place of honor and dignity with this flag; black folks and white folks in southland America are family,” Edgerton told WYFF. “This is our flag. This was my message when I walked to Texas; that was my message when I walked to the White House. And it’s my message still.”

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