CHARLOTTE — It isn't often that Hillary Clinton lets her guard down about what she really thinks about the Republican presidential race.
"You guys can’t stop covering him," Clinton told Matthews. "He is a dangerous presence."
"It’s just like candy by the bushel."
Matthews followed up by acknowledging that his network has a "progressive audience, obviously."
"But nobody can tell what people want to watch," he said.
"People must think they want to watch him," Clinton replied.
"They laugh at him," said Matthews.
The subject quickly turned to Christie, and Clinton wondered: "Why did he support him?"
Matthews explained that Christie and others who support Trump "want a future" politically.
"Did he have a debt?" Clinton mused.
Matthews added that New Jersey Sen. Cory Booker, a Democrat, "isn't going anywhere," which leaves Christie "nowhere" to go in New Jersey politics.
"I don’t think he would win right now," Clinton chimed in.
"I don’t think he can win as a Senate candidate either," Matthews agreed.
The two chatted and chuckled about "Tommy Smothers" and "Ed Sullivan" for a minute more.
The audio cut out just before Clinton could answer Matthews's final question: "Did you watch the end of Downton Abbey?"