The Washington Post hosted the Daily 202 Live on Dec. 16 with James Hohmann interviewing Newt Gingrich. (April Greer for The Washington Post)

Newt Gingrich called on President-elect Donald Trump to wage “straight-out war” on the federal bureaucracy, starting with Veterans Affairs (VA), which Gingrich called the “archetype of disaster.”

In a Washington Post Live interview Friday with The Post’s James Hohmann, the former House speaker attacked veterans’ service organizations and the union representing VA workers. He urged Trump to adopt a simple message: “Do you think people who kill veterans should stay in their jobs … [should] we make the government union people happy and keep in their jobs people who we know broke the rules and killed veterans?”

Gingrich also was critical of veterans’ organizations that want Trump to keep VA Secretary Robert McDonald in his position.

“The Veterans Administration [the previous name for VA] is a total disgrace and it’s embarrassing that the senior veterans’ organizations endorsed the current veterans’ secretary because he has failed totally to clean it up,” Gingrich said. “And they did it because they prefer the current status where they have access to [VA] offices, rather than making sure veterans are taken care of.”

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