Per the Vogue magazine profile of Kass and Wagner:
It was Wolffe, also an MSNBC commentator, who introduced Kass to Wagner. After spotting Wagner at White House events, Kass pestered his friend to take him to the MSNBC after-party following the White House Correspondents’ Dinner. Wolffe says he told Kass that he was aiming way over his head. “ ‘Forget it. Never going to happen,’ I kept telling him.”
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