According to the transcript, yes: In an interview with Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin on Dec. 17, 2017, Tapper started out with this inquiry: “Would it alarm you if President Trump fired [Special Counsel Robert] Mueller?”
Mnuchin responded, “I haven’t heard the president — I was with the — at dinner last night with the president and vice president. I haven’t heard anything about this, any firing. But we have got to get past this investigation. It’s a giant distraction. Nobody has said that in any way this impacted the outcome of the election.” He also said that dismissing Mueller would be “up to” President Trump. There was immediate context for the question about the special counsel, considering that Trump World was apoplectic about a move by Mueller’s team to obtain emails from Trump’s presidential transition operation. Legal experts, said Tapper, opined that the controversy could serve as a “pretext” for Mueller’s firing.
In his correspondence with Sayegh, Wallace thought Tapper’s question was off base: “As much as I hate the expression ‘fake news’ — this is a perfect example of it — especially on the week the country gets a massive overhaul of the tax code,” he wrote back to Sayegh. Such blandishments reflect the hypercompetitive nature of the Sunday public affairs shows, which jockey among each other for the best guests.
Wallace has spoken out against the demonization of media during the Trump era. As further proof that he doesn’t like the term he deployed, Wallace in November 2018 pressed Trump on his anti-media rhetoric in an interview. After the president dodged accountability for his words, Wallace went straight at him: “But, sir, leaders in authoritarian countries like Russia, China, Venezuela, now repress the media using your words.”
Right! The Erik Wemple Blog can stomach a lot of depravity in emails between journos and sources — those communications, after all, aren’t a finished journalistic product, which should determine the reputation of news folk. Invoking “fake news” to tar the work of a peer, however, is far worse. “Fake news,” remember, applies to deliberately false stories posted on the Internet to draw fungible clicks and stoke political division — despite Trump’s attempts to widen the term’s purview. No one in Trump’s orbit needs encouragement — especially from a towering figure like Wallace — to unsheathe this poisonous term.
In any case, history has endorsed Tapper’s instincts here, as he was alighting on what may survive as Trump’s most naked attempt to abuse his executive authority. Approximately one month after Tapper quizzed Mnuchin about the special counsel’s job security, the New York Times’s Michael S. Schmidt and Maggie Haberman reported that Trump in June 2017 had indeed ordered the firing of Mueller, via White House counsel Donald McGahn.
Just how did Trump greet that investigative report? “Fake news, folks,” he said. “Fake news. A typical New York Times fake story.” So the president and Wallace appeared to agree on this.
The Mueller report, which surfaced in April, disagreed, however. It confirmed the New York Times story point by scandalous point. “Substantial evidence … supports the conclusion that the President went further and in fact directed McGahn to call Rosenstein to have the Special Counsel removed,” it found.
Asked about the situation, a Fox News spokesperson responded that Wallace is “proud of the tough and probing interview he did with Treasury Secretary Mnuchin in which he asked at least 10 questions about the tax bill that had just been passed, including whether wealthy Americans need all of those tax breaks and if the GOP tax plan will create a more complicated tax system.”
No doubt: Wallace’s session with Mnuchin was a model of interview-accountability journalism, chockablock with numbers and research and a polite but stern skepticism. “The president was on the South Lawn … and said, four, five or six percent growth. We do not really believe that, do you?” he asked of Mnuchin, in what turned out to be a prescient question.
It’s unclear from the email why Wallace thought a question about firing Mueller was “fake news.” Perhaps his decades in Washington journalism have taught him that presidents of the United States just don’t sink to such a level of corruption. We’re all learning on the job here.
A CNN spokesperson issued this statement: “Turns out Chris Wallace is no different than many of his peers at Fox News. It’s disappointing that he’d need to take cheap shots at another journalist to curry favor with this administration.” Actually, Chris Wallace is much different from many of his peers at Fox News, which is why this “fake news” moment comes as such a surprise.