June 10, 2020
As thousands of people around the country protest to demand justice for George Floyd and police accountability, video-documented law enforcement abuse continues to spur fresh outrage. Peaceful demonstrations have been met with tear gas and rubber bullets, and instances of police brutality continue to mount. As public outcry reaches a fever pitch, community leaders are working to implement solutions.
Washington Post opinions writer Jonathan Capehart will speak with DeRay Mckesson, a leading voice of the Black Lives Matter movement and co-founder of Campaign Zero, as well as Charles Ramsey, a former police chief in Philadelphia and Washington, D.C., about policing and the impact of civil unrest on criminal justice reform. Join us on Wednesday, June 10 at 2:00 p.m. ET.
Alongside demands for police reform, another demand has surfaced: Defund the police. But the phrase has caused some confusion. Black Lives Matter activist DeRay Mckesson explained that, for him, defund the police means reallocating funds to organizations and experts that need them. ‘It really is this idea of move the money to follow the responsibilities…Who should be dealing with the mental health crisis? Probably an expert, probably not a police officer…We should permanently remove those responsibilities and permanently move those resources.’
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Former police chief Charles Ramsey says the difficulty in removing problematic officers cannot be remedied exclusively with federal legislation because of union protections. He added that the ability to remove bad officers from their job needs to be addressed in the terms and conditions of union contracts. “I would argue that the system of discipline and policing is broken. There’s no doubt about it. There are too many cops that are on the job that should not be on the job.’
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Black Lives Matter activist DeRay Mckesson and former police chief Charles Ramsey share their thoughts on the barriers that have prevented progress in the realm of police accountability.
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When asked what use of force policies he thinks should be implemented, former police chief Charles Ramsey says he believes neck restraints should be prohibited and officers should have a duty to intervene. “Policies have to be more than words, they have to translate into actual action on the street.”
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DeRay Mckesson
Black Lives Matter Activist and Co-founder of Campaign Zero
Charles Ramsey
Former Chief of Police for Philadelphia and Washington, D.C.
Moderated by Jonathan Capehart
The Washington Post
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